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Sinead O Connor RIP

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    #392
    cobham
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    15 year gap in their ages so hardly 'grew up together'?



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    #393
    sligeach
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    Public invited to pay tribute to Sinéad O'Connor at Bray procession

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2023/0806/1398442-sinead-oconnor/

    Singer Sinéad O'Connor's funeral cortege will pass through Bray, Co Wicklow on Tuesday before a private burial, following her death in London last month. The exact details of the funeral haven't been made available yet.



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    #394
    Str8outtaWuhan
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    As a Muslim surely she should have been buried as soon as her body was released? And islamic funerals are never private afaik.



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    #395
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120946287#Comment_120946287

    Blah blah **** bla



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    #396
    airy fairy
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120946287#Comment_120946287

    Who says she was Muslim at the time of her death? Who knows what her wishes, or indeed her families wishes may be?



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    #397
    Str8outtaWuhan
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120946571#Comment_120946571

    The iman of clonskeagh mosque referred to her as a sister, which is how Muslim men address Muslim women? I'd hate to think that after all the crap she went through in life her decision to become a Muslim would not be honoured.



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    #398
    airy fairy
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120946704#Comment_120946704

    Perhaps she had her own wishes. She was a very a la carte believer, in whatever religion she believed in at any given time...she said herself there were things in Muslim teachings that she didn't agree with.

    I think it's time for Sinead's family to do what is right now for themselves and her. Quite frankly, it's not for anyone to judge, tut tut, make assumptions or make comment on how Sinead's final journey transpires.



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    #399
    elperello
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120946764#Comment_120946764

    Agreed, if this RIP thread is going to become a critique of the funeral arrangements it's time to wind it up.



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    #400
    Spanish Eyes
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    The funeral is private. Leave it now. Have a gawk, or pay respects in Bray.



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    #401
    Deregos.
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    https://www.irishmirror.ie/showbiz/haunting-sinead-oconnor-appears-bray-30640800

    . . .



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    #402
    sligeach
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120947337#Comment_120947337

    I seen that just now on the RTE news. It's a nice tribute but I immediately focused on the fada's. Yes, there's the one on Sinéad, but where's the fada on Éire? Maybe it's a sign of OCD in me.



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    #403
    Andrea B.
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120947556#Comment_120947556

    I think the "EIRE" is a pre-existing WW2 neutrality marker. Luckily original scribe wasn't punished with 100 lines.



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    #404
    Beasty
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    nonsheep7 threadbanned



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    #405
    murpho999
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    I've been a big fan of Sinead since her first album came out. I was 17 then and it still remains one of my favourite albums and I think it's her best work.

    Always liked her as a musician and person despite finding her behavior odd at times (mainly regarding her relationships and religious views) but never let it bother me as I only cared about her music.

    I was saddened to hear of her death as she had a difficult life , died too young and is a great loss to music.

    That being said , I've found the coverage in the last week quite nauseating, people coming out of the woodwork to talk about her. Columns in the media beatifying her, saying she was the mother of Ireland etc.

    Got so OTT I think Sinead herself would find it strange.

    I live in Bray and was at her old house on Saturday and found it very strange how people leave flowers, cards and letters there, strange behaviour to me. One person even left a Mars and a Flake bar there. Very odd.

    Whilst it was lovely see such a large crowd for her send off in Bray this morning I do find it weird how people react to celebrity deaths, throwing flowers on a hearse etc when the truth is the majority of the people there probably only know her for Nothing Compares 2 U which is sad as it's by no means her best work.

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    #406
    Goldengirl
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    Different people...everyone grieves in their own way .

    The flowers etc I don't know why you have an issue, tbh, it's fairly traditional . (Would say the chocolate was kids ?)

    It's why people turn up at funerals and removals for people they hardly knew but just want to do ' something ' .

    It might seem illogical to some , annoying to others , but it would be worse if someone's passing was not noticed , remarked upon or lamented , for the family at least .

    I think a lot of what was going on in Bray looked to be a bit of a celebration of her life , and if it helps people, and if those people you consider have no entitlement to be there are happy today , what's the issue ?

    Sure look at the crowd for Christy Dignam recently .

    I would think to be questioning what is a normal part of life and death in Ireland is more strange really .



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    #407
    Beechwoodspark
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    Lovely service today.

    Led by Shaykh Umar Al-Qadri.

    His speech is up on his website - Islamiccentre.ie

    worth reading.

    this gives a sense of it -

    https://www.thejournal.ie/sinead-o-connor-eulogy-bray-6138616-Aug2023/



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    #408
    hawley
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    She was everyone's mother, sister, daughter or aunt. Was a lot more grounded in the community than the likes of Bob Geldof or Enya.



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    #409
    Tony EH
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    Was never a huge fan of her music, while always appreciating her voice, but I bumped into her in Jervis Street of all places. I wasn't looking where I was going and sent her shopping all over the place. In a panic, I was trying to pick up oranges, watermellons, and whatnot and trying to put them back into a hessian bag of some description. Then I looked up to apologise to the lady I bounced off and see that it's bleedin Sinead O'Connor looking back at me. All I could say was "Jaysis, it's yourself".

    She smiled a broad smile and gave a genuine laugh and said, "It is!" and then asked me if I was ok. 😄

    I was just glad I didn't send her flying, she was tiny.



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    #410
    RabbleRouser2k
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    I will admit that the coverage of Sinead O'Connor's passing sometimes felt a little over the top, but I wonder if much of it was the media sort of making 'reparations' for the many, many articles that were written, in her lifetime, that were 'unkind'. Tbh, they'd cut back on a lot of those articles, in recent times. Possibly out of respect for the troubles she'd been going through.

    There was also the timing of her passing. We had weeks of articles and coverage about corporate and political scandals, and her passing, in the middle of all this (as well as many tragedies that occurred recently) made folks sort of pause, and take heed of what is important in life, notably one another.

    And O'Connor was a cautionary tale, in many respects. For all the success she had in her lifetime, happiness eluded her. Many of us dream of success, but it doesn't bring happiness. And there were some things that were thrown at her that I wouldn't wish on anybody.



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    #411
    Andrea B.
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    Fairly sickening to see a significantly large proportion there could not resist holding up their phones to film what should be a sombre and respectful affair.

    It has lost the plot.

    Yes, I saw this through press images, which is a slight contradiction in itself, but there are balances.



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    #412
    prunudo
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120955255#Comment_120955255

    Way of the world now unfortunately, but is it any different to the countless media organisations who turned up to cover it.

    Couple people I know on fb where there and posted some photos and snippet of the hearse passing by. Bit odd, wouldn't be how I'd behave at the removal of somebody I wanted to pay respects too, but each to their own.



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    #413
    hawley
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    If he does turn up, he’ll sing “Nothing Compares To Me” at the altar and say it was Sinead’s wish that he do so should she pass suddenly and she mentioned this is a private moment between them. Credit ButtersSuki. Hope that it's okay to mention Sinead now.



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    #414
    DownByTheGarden
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    I never read a good word about her in about 30 years. There were a few good things said about her before she started attention seeking and rubbing people up the wrong way. But in the last 30 years or so I have only heard people talk about her in derogatory terms. Maybe Gay Byrne was the only one who had a nice word about her.

    And now straight out of the mouths of the same people (this includes friends of mine and also the media) they are trying to canonize the woman. They all forget what they said yesterday.

    People are just strange.



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    #415
    bullpost
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120955469#Comment_120955469

    I would have been of the same opinion as a lot of those people up to a couple of years ago.

    Then I read a book which completely changed my mind about how I viewed Sinead - I understood her struggles a lot more and was sympathetic to her.

    I always loved "Fire on Babylon" - Its a difficult song and not many artists would consider something so searingly honest.

    I recommend reading the book to understand how devastating mental illness can be and how it can hit anyone, regardless of their background

    https://www.dubraybooks.ie/product/mind-on-fire-pb-9780241982853




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    #416
    Loafing Oaf
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120955469#Comment_120955469

    The Mozfather anatomized this phenomenon long ago

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bYXb7iEDJ4

    I'm glad she had a Muslim funeral service if that's "what she would have wanted" and she was as genuine about her conversion as she seemed



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    #417
    Run Forest Run
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    Maybe I'm in the minority, but I actually don't think 56 is too bad an age to go.

    Depends what sort of shape you're in physically and mentally I suppose. Sinead had been through a lot in those 56 years.

    Perhaps it's just an unconscious reaction by people, to say someone died too young or something. I didn't see any signs that her life was improving with the advancing years. If anything things seemed to be getting gradually worse for her.



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    #418
    The Nal
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120955784#Comment_120955784

    I saw Tony Bennett play a gig when he was 89. A full 33 years older than her. Its been 33 years since Nothing Compares. She had loads of time left.

    But yeah, theres a sad inevitability about it.



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    #419
    Loafing Oaf
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120955784#Comment_120955784

    She was a lifelong chain smoker no? People still seem chary of linking premature death to tobacco addiction unless it's through something indisputable like lung cancer...



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    #420
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120955469#Comment_120955469

    Really?

    I've always felt that people had a lot of affection for her, and when her difficulties were obvious at times I only heard people wish her the best.

    I don't recall any real criticism of her tbh except what I've seen on tv after ripping up the picture of the pope, and most of that from Italian Americans for whom an attack on the pope seemed to be an attack on their Identity.



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    #421
    The Nal
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120955469#Comment_120955469

    Heres one of the greatest of the last 25 years showing her appreciation

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB3qDlu5Nvg&ab_channel=ZeldaHallman




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