Clontarf to City Centre Cycle & Bus Priority Project discussion (renamed)

The recent posts got me thinking, it'd be interesting to see the reaction if a number cyclists coordinated to early one day park bikes in car parking spaces in the city centre (I assume there is no reason why bikes can't use what are accepted as car spaces, once they pay accordingly). No doubt there'd be uproar but when a car is disrupting cycle infrastructure some people seem to question if there is an issue with it at all.

Obviously the actual equivalent would be bikes parked in a road lane but that would probably be too Just Stop Oil and actually be counterproductive to the cause. The point would be to draw attention to the issue in a reasonable way. Off tpoic to the thread so apologies, just thinking out loud.

I genuinely don't think it would work. The message would be completely lost. Drivers are perfectly happy to sit in a queue of traffic, it's just an accepted fact. They might moan a bit and in the past, that moaning might have led to road widening but that's unlikely to happen these days.

I doubt you'd get much uptake from cyclists either, most of them aren't activists hanging out here or on Cycling Twitter and even those that are wouldn't be that keen to spend a morning sitting in terrible traffic.

Got a bus out through North Strand/Fairview yesterday, first time I was out that way in 6 months.

It's obscene what's been done. There's zero justification for having the entire route dug up all the way out at the same time. Except of course it feeds the usual brown envelope culture where somebody gets to take a chunk of public money. Now legitimised with green stripes on the envelope.

Can't imagine how many businesses along the way are going under. There at least one that's been there for 20+ years that gone .

All to push the standard Dublin policy of forcing people away from driving by making it impossible. Without providing actual alternatives.

Bus services are possibly less reliable than they've ever been. Taxis are pretty much a monopoly under Freenow which is a wonderful example of how the gig economy fleeces customers and providers, while providing a mediocre service. And not everyone is in a position to cycle.

I really hope that every single person in favour of this monstrosity suffers the consequences in years to come.

Yes, laying large diameter watermains is usually done 1m at a time, it's only the corrupt Irish who do it in longer lengths. And coupling it with other works which would also disrupt the same route, wouldn't happen anywhere else I tells ya!

And a large portion of the population of Dublin will indeed "suffer" the consequences of this works by having a continuous supply of potable water. Those bastards!

Just run the water main through the park, like all the retired business people wanted. No need to connect that water main to any houses or businesses though.

The bus service is indeed facing challenges arising from recruitment issues right now, but that will resolve itself eventually.

Are you suggesting that investment in infrastructure which will improve bus journey times and reduce conflicts between buses and cyclists should be abandoned because of a short term staffing problem?

Good man Karl. I’ll have two please. 🤪

Almost ever sentence in this post is wrong, apart maybe from the "Got a bus out through North Strand/Fairview yesterday, first time I was out that way in 6 months", which I'm unable to verify, but going on how wrong everything else was, I suspect that's wrong too.

What a hilarious post. Unfortunately these kind of idiots get too much air time in Ireland and are the reason infrastructure projects are held back.

Change! Detours! Businesses I don't actually really give a f**k about! Cancel everything at once!

This is what the area originally looked like, a 5 lane highway through a park/residential area...don't think anyone wants to go back to that surely?

The idea here is that more people walk, cycle and take the Bus/Dart

I think you aren't looking at the drawings correctly. Funnelling at Annesley House is irrelevant, as traffic has already split at this point.

There has always been two lanes of motor traffic, (not including bus lanes), from before Howth Road junction, inbound. This will be reduced to a single lane until Merville Avenue.

It's a 50% reduction in road space, where the three main arteries feeding into Fairview join.

A 50% reduction for a few metres, not significant in the whole scheme