General MMA Chat/News part 4 - **No Spoilers Use Event Threads**

It's not the first time in a Moreno fight, but the commentary was way off on it, Pantoja was landing much heavier shots while Moreno was landing jabs and DC and Rogan creaming themselves talking about Moreno winning the round. They showed the round strikes and it was exactly level immediately after it. I thought it was a close fight, would have slightly edged it to Pantoja for the more significant strikes and control.

Hope Izzy gets sparked. A clueless ignorant individual.

Dana of was asked about the racial undertones in the confrontation his predictable response was what racial undertones ffs. He was then asked about the N word also being repeated on live TV and said trash talk is part of the game he's black so what.

I have to say I radically under-estimated Du Plessis going into that fight. What a performance, left me speechless.

Amazing card overall. So many great fights and to see Robbie get a send off like that was genuinely magical.

Israel coming into the cage was so cringe I could barely watch. He's such an ignorant, unlikeable tool. I hope Du Plessis knocks those words out of his mouth.

Also new mythical fighter: Oxygenated Du Plessis. Hadn't heard that story about his nose issues.

Completely agree. Commentary is often bias, it's natural when the commentators are also fans. But that bias definitely sways viewer. Especially those that don't really understand how fights are scored. There's no point deciding at the 5th round bell that you think that Moreno did more and definitely won.

Stats don't tell the whole picture. But the claim was based on "higher % strikes, higher % significant strikes and had an equal amount of takedowns", and stats don't show that at all. Main criteria highlighted; Sig strikes, total strikes, takedowns and control time. Solid highlights are dominate advantages, boxes are marginal.

Pantoja clearly takes Rd1. Moreno takes Rd 2, clearly also.

Rd3 the strikes are close to equal (marginally Moreno), Pantoja has a big edge in takedowns and control. Pantoja's round.

Rd 4 is probably the one that divides most. stats are split, Pantoja dominated control and takedowns. But Moreno's strikes should award him the round.

Rd 5 Moreno has an insignificant edge in Sig strikes. But Pantoja strong advantage across everything else on total strikes.

As I said, stats are hot everything. But if people are going to appeal to the stats, they are in Pantoja's favour, with the closet round going to Moreno. I have that 47-46 (with an outside change of 48-46) to Pantoja. Unsurprisingly, the media scores strongly align to that.

Damage is a big part of scoring and Pantoja did a lot more of that. I think he won it clearly.

Hes running with the African vs Afrikaan thing. No need.

The world is trying to get rid of the word and he has a responsibility as a pretty well know person to understand that and act accordingly. There are many black people all over the world upset by what he did.

I'm upset by it. I really hope he's gone soon, I don't want to look at him ever again. I'm certainly muting the TV when he's talking. I really hope Du Plessis destroys him.

Well I've an Irish friend whose black and she heard about it and wasn't happy. I lived in the US for over half a decade and I've many friends over there who I've stayed in contact with and two of my black friends talked about how unhappy they were about it. They both said pretty much the same thing which was that the gang types would love it but everybody else would be upset by it.

As for Dana White and his comments, he doesn't care about fighters or anything else, all that matters to him is money. Every comment he makes is what he thinks will make him the most money.

I am upset by it. Using that word is inexcusable in this day and age.

A grade a tool. Hopefully knocked off his perch in the fight.

Bannon looked dreadful. It's mma not point sparring, devoid of any basics. Too much too soon anyway she only turned pro 18 months ago.

Is mma really for you, you seem easily upset. I seem to remember you been upset about the follow up punches masvidal hit askren with too.

Fom memory askren wasnt upset with the extras

henderson done same to bisping

You strike the opponent until the ref steps in, it happens so quick masvidal doesn't even know askren is out cold.

Izzy is black, he wants to use that word he can.

It's prize fighting, you sell the fight, create controversy, create emotion.