General MMA Chat/News part 4 - **No Spoilers Use Event Threads**

Axwell

The old thread was nearing 10,000 posts..as you were.

Usual forum rules apply as per the charter.

Link to old thread

Zero-Cool

I'm quite enjoying Steve-O's podcast, GSP is on the latest one. Haven't listened to it yet but mma might come up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBgk3S4el-c

eagle eye

I see Poirier is ahead of Oliveira and Yan ahead of Sterling in the official UFC p4p rankings. I agree in both cases but I don't ever remember seeing two champions rated lower than non-champions at their weight before.

mailburner

I think Paul wins this pretty handy myself

Woodley will do well to win a round, does have a chance of a ko but
he probably won't be much of a threat should it go past two

I'd imagine he'll train like a demon for this but I doubt it'll matter.

It would be great if he got paul outa there in one if only to slow down the jake paul circus

Rjd2

mailburner wrote: »

I think Paul wins this pretty handy myself

Woodley will do well to win a round, does have a chance of a ko but
he probably won't be much of a threat should it go past two

I'd imagine he'll train like a demon for this but I doubt it'll matter.

It would be great if he got paul outa there in one if only to slow down the jake paul circus

Id agree.

However if Woodley was to win, interesting to see what he would do next.

Obvious thing for him would be to fight the other Paul, but would Dana come back with an offer due to his increased profile?

conor678

Lads how good a boxer is this Paul chap? I dare say he's not short of a bob or two so has good trainers and is committed to it but just curious to see how far he'll go of he continues with it all?

If he beats Woodley I wonder who's next and if he keeps pushing to fight mma stars, all be it ones on the way out, surely he'll come up against better strikers then askerin and woodley

but1er

after the face off i have no faith in woodly beating him.

Paul put an offer to him beat me ill double the purse or lose donate the purse.

didnt respond and instead ill beat you and paul said stick your money were your mouth is..

bottle job from woodly if he was any way confident in beating him he would of backed himself.

eagle eye

This is a boxing match between some idiot and an MMA fighter.
Why are we discussing it? It's not MMA.

Tazzimus

eagle eye wrote: »

Why are we discussing it?

A question that applies generally to any mention of Logan or Jake.

MrStuffins

eagle eye wrote: »

Why are we discussing it?

Because.....

eagle eye wrote: »

This is a boxing match between some idiot and an MMA fighter.

eagle eye

MrStuffins wrote:

Because.....

But it's not MMA.

MrStuffins

eagle eye wrote: »

But it's not MMA.

I assume you've never posted about Conor McGregor's boxing match v Floyd Mayweather then?

It involves a current MMA fighter and former UFC Champion.

It definitely fits into the "General MMA Chat" bracket.

If you don't want to chat about it, then don't.

eagle eye

MrStuffins wrote:

I assume you've never posted about Conor McGregor's boxing match v Floyd Mayweather then?

I did a bit on.the boxing forum iirc.

MrStuffins wrote:

It definitely fits into the "General MMA Chat" bracket.

No it doesn't, it's a boxing match.

EagererBeaver

New thread off to a great start.

MrStuffins

eagle eye wrote: »

I did a bit on.the boxing forum iirc.

Erm..............

eagle eye wrote: »

Conor McGregor figured out a way to get paid huge money and imo he deserves huge plaudits for that.

He has helped UFC too because his fight with Mayweather has increased the awareness of the sport.

In a couple of years I'd expect to hear the top mma fighters talk about how their earnings increased massively because of Conor McGregor.

eagle eye wrote: »

Mayweather is far better than McGregor in a boxing ring for sure but Conor has serious ko power and a phantom type punch.

If Floyd had went for it earlier he might well have succeeded but he could also have ended up on the canvas and with his first loss.

What makes Floyd the best fighter in history,, imo, is his preparation and intelligence in the ring. The gameplan was smart, everybody knows that McGregor tires quickly so it made sense to be careful and take your time in this fight.
To state as an outright fact that Floyd would have won early if he wanted to is not only unrealistic but basically insulting to both fighters and their teams.

eagle eye wrote: »

He has taken too many punches to the head in his career.

eagle eye wrote: »

People are in bed with an alarm set for the fight, they don't want to sit through all the drivel that is the undercard for this fight.

Back in your box pal.



Back on topic, I just don't agree that Paul should be a favourite here. Woodley is not Ben Askren. I think Woodley wins here and i'm considering a hefty wager on it too. He's better than Evens in places. I just think Woodley will have too much for him.

eagle eye

MrStuffins wrote:

Back in your box pal.

Back in my box?
So that thread was in the MMA forum, never knew that and really it shouldn't have been, it should have been on the boxing forum.
And I didn't say with certainty that I never posted about it in the MMA forum, I knew I discussed it in the event thread which I assumed was in the boxing forum.
I'm sure I also discussed it on the Conor McGregor thread which is probably in this forum also but that thread is about McGregor.

mailburner

Rjd2 wrote: »

Id agree.

However if Woodley was to win, interesting to see what he would do next.

Obvious thing for him would be to fight the other Paul, but would Dana come back with an offer due to his increased profile?

He'd never be more popular than if he beat paul but he still won't be
popular and I'd say Dana is completely done with him no matter how
he wins this

Rjd2

mailburner wrote: »

He'd never be more popular than if he beat paul but he still won't be
popular and I'd say Dana is completely done with him no matter how
he wins this

I reckon he would look for a rematch even if he won or a fight with the brother.

It would most certainly pay the bills.

Yeah he is done at UFC and while Bellator might be tempted to take a punt, he'd also struggle over their also.

PatrickDoherty

Tyron Woodley has beaten some of the best strikers in mma history from Paul Daley, Condit, Lawler, Till, and Wonderboy and hes fighting a youtuber who has never fought anybody bar an ancient wrestler with a broken hip that couldnt box eggs in his prime I'll be having a decent lump and only for the chance of a fix I would be going 4 figures here incredible betting price.

Axwell

Eagle Eye and MrStuffins..I don't recall either of you being promoted to mod so less of the back seat moderation and while you are at it less of the abuse and bickering, card for each of you for the nonsense and any more of it and you are on a break.

Alf Veedersane

MrStuffins wrote: »

Back on topic, I just don't agree that Paul should be a favourite here. Woodley is not Ben Askren. I think Woodley wins here and i'm considering a hefty wager on it too. He's better than Evens in places. I just think Woodley will have too much for him.

I don't think Paul is terrible but it looks a bit like boxing by numbers, what I have seen.

Not saying Woodley is a particularly good boxer but I think he will have a better chance of setting up his punch.

If he lands, we'll see how good Paul's chin is.

Homelander

but1er wrote: »

after the face off i have no faith in woodly beating him.

Paul put an offer to him beat me ill double the purse or lose donate the purse.

didnt respond and instead ill beat you and paul said stick your money were your mouth is..

bottle job from woodly if he was any way confident in beating him he would of backed himself.

This is kinda daft. Whatever about how likely one side is to win any given sport event, there are far less guarantees in combat sports specifically.

Why would Woodly gamble unnecessary when he's already got a massive payday in the bag no matter what happens?

Using it as some sort of justification that Woodley knows he will lose is ridiculous. Why would he risk the biggest payday in his career even if he personally felt there was only a 10% risk.

It's the smart choice.

MrStuffins

Homelander wrote: »

This is kinda daft. Whatever about how likely one side is to win any given sport event, there are far less guarantees in combat sports specifically.

Why would Woodly gamble unnecessary when he's already got a massive payday in the bag no matter what happens?

Using it as some sort of justification that Woodley knows he will lose is ridiculous. Why would he risk the biggest payday in his career even if he personally felt there was only a 10% risk.

It's the smart choice.

And if Woodley really wanted to bet, he's better than EVS on some of the exchanges.

He'd get better value if he just put a bet on.

Ush1

If Woodley takes it seriously at all he should KO him.

mailburner

It's 4/5 paul 11/10 woodley now

I hope woodley keeps shortening, you'll probably be counting your
money on paul if this goes past three rounds

paul on pts at 9s not half bad value imo

Rjd2

mailburner wrote: »

It's 4/5 paul 11/10 woodley now

I hope woodley keeps shortening, you'll probably be counting your
money on paul if this goes past three rounds

paul on pts at 9s not half bad value imo

No chance that this fight has stupid rules ala Tyson v Jones and Paul v Floyd?

mailburner

Rjd2 wrote: »

No chance that this fight has stupid rules ala Tyson v Jones and Paul v Floyd?

Nah, same as askren paul

John_D80

but1er wrote: »

after the face off i have no faith in woodly beating him.

Paul put an offer to him beat me ill double the purse or lose donate the purse.

didnt respond and instead ill beat you and paul said stick your money were your mouth is..

bottle job from woodly if he was any way confident in beating him he would of backed himself.

Bottle job?? Absolutely not. The kind of money at stake there means a lot more to Woodley than it does to Paul.

This isn't Paul first huge payday and it wont be his last either.

This is a once in a lifetime opportunity for Woodley. Hes not going to jeopardise is.

Chairman Meow

Finished the Edmond video. Fair warning, its 34 effing minutes long lol

Chairman Meow

Jaysus, the Edmond video has gotten a bit big. Blew up my subscribers to over 1000 and its getting about 1k views every day! Still small time compared to most other channels but im happy with it seeing as how i only ever did this as something to keep me occupied over lockdown

Alf Veedersane

Chairman Meow wrote: »

Jaysus, the Edmond video has gotten a bit big. Blew up my subscribers to over 1000 and its getting about 1k views every day! Still small time compared to most other channels but im happy with it seeing as how i only ever did this as something to keep me occupied over lockdown

Before you know it, you'll be fighting one of the Paul brothers :pac:

Chairman Meow

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Before you know it, you'll be fighting one of the Paul brothers :pac:

Theyre taking everything i worked for!! **** id happily get clowned by one of them for half a mil lol

The Nal

Ariel Helwani is joining BT Sport. UFC, boxing and WWE.

Whelo79

Does anyone know what the situation is between Ian Garry and Team KF? Apparently they have parted ways (according to rumours) and Chris Fields won't be in Ian's corner fighting for the Cage Warriors title this weekend.

I think Ian is living over in the UK now since he hooked up with Layla Anna Lee so I presume he has just had to move gym for that purpose anyway??

LollipopJimmy

Whelo79 wrote: »

Does anyone know what the situation is between Ian Garry and Team KF? Apparently they have parted ways (according to rumours) and Chris Fields won't be in Ian's corner fighting for the Cage Warriors title this weekend.

I think Ian is living over in the UK now since he hooked up with Layla Anna Lee so I presume he has just had to move gym for that purpose anyway??

That was a very strange piece with Sean Sheehan. I only saw the clip of that piece but seems very odd

Mellor

Whelo79 wrote: »

Does anyone know what the situation is between Ian Garry and Team KF? Apparently they have parted ways (according to rumours) and Chris Fields won't be in Ian's corner fighting for the Cage Warriors title this weekend.

I think Ian is living over in the UK now since he hooked up with Layla Anna Lee so I presume he has just had to move gym for that purpose anyway??

Was that her interrupting interview?
It’s seemed a bit odd alright

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwomW5Aovlc

MrStuffins

Mellor wrote: »

Was that her interrupting interview?
It’s seemed a bit odd alright

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwomW5Aovlc

Just watched this.......... she interrupted the interview. That's just so weird!

Definitely something going on!

PatrickDoherty

Very talented kid, they seemed very close him and Chris so im surprised they've fallen out before hes even hit the big time.. woman or money is my guess here like most problems in life...

yourdeadwright

PatrickDoherty wrote: »

Very talented kid, they seemed very close him and Chris so im surprised they've fallen out before hes even hit the big time.. woman or money is my guess here like most problems in life...

I know people who know him & i get the impression its not because of money ,

Life can be tough for a young lad with so much expectations ,
His missus works for BT & is 12/13 older than him ,she was married & had a kid all in the past 5 years, Now there's nothing wrong with that at all & i would never judge anyone's relationship but it could bring a lot of extra things into a young athletes life or it could help settle him , Who's to know

He's a really nice chap & i hope he does as well as he possible can ,

ASOT

Very strange interview, she had a post up on her Instagram saying he was singing to the media.

yourdeadwright

He's put up an Instagram post saying 10 dyas out Team KF decided not to support him so he's no longer a part of the team,.

One comment on Twitter thatz he's been Megan Markled whatever that means

ASOT

yourdeadwright wrote: »

He's put up an Instagram post saying 10 dyas out Team KF decided not to support him so he's no longer a part of the team,.

One comment on Twitter thatz he's been Megan Markled whatever that means

Just seen it now yeah.

Alot more to it than that I'd imagine. Wish him luck the weekend either way.

yourdeadwright

ASOT wrote: »

Just seen it now yeah.

Alot more to it than that I'd imagine. Wish him luck the weekend either way.

Ye as i said seems like a really nice bloke and hope he goes and puts on a stunning performance

PatrickDoherty

If hes living in England its probably a case of him training elsewhere and the guys in KF arent going to go along with that, cant blame them really.

yourdeadwright

PatrickDoherty wrote: »

If hes living in England its probably a case of him training elsewhere and the guys in KF arent going to go along with that, cant blame them really.

Wonder what camp he will go to

selassie

Maybe he'd expect to get the James Webb treatment, didn't he move back to and train in England towards the end of his (ongoing) career but was still cornered by KF.

DrPhilG

Lol, Sage Northcutt has been enjoying the Mexican supplements since leaving the UFC...

Mehaffey1

Sage NorthcuTRT

Mad how he's been starched so badly in my memory.

yourdeadwright

Seen the YouTube video of Garry now is it just me or is it a bit weird & embarrassing for a fighters missus to be interrupting to make sure he what he says is ok,
The hand on the shoulder & the way she did it was very telling whos the boss

Teferi

She's an experienced presenter and social media type giving him a bit of quick advice. I think she just has his best interests at heart and didn't see a problem with it.

Mellor

PatrickDoherty wrote: »

If hes living in England its probably a case of him training elsewhere and the guys in KF arent going to go along with that, cant blame them really.

Would be petty from them if that is the case imo. People travel all the time for the sport. But would really depend on the schedule.

Or prehaps where he was planning on training.

Must be more to it. Chris was supporting him on social media and talking about being in the corner.

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Seen the YouTube video of Garry now is it just me or is it a bit weird & embarrassing for a fighters missus to be interrupting to make sure he what he says is ok,
The hand on the shoulder & the way she did it was very telling whos the boss

She's pretty experience with the media. She'll almost be in a PR role for hm.
Could have been a bit more covert though.