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World's hottest day since records began

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,523 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I wasnt able to get fresh broccoli, oh woe is me, the last few days in dunnes or supervalu, it's usually Spanish. Just googled it and it's one of the crops greatly affected by weather this year in Spain with a much smaller yield. I wonder that's why i couldn't find any.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,415 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    So you're mad at the greek weather forecasters for forecasting 40c temperatures....

    I'm not sure if I believe that they were forecasting specific 40c+ temperatures for Crete, and I'm also not sure what you consider to be 'mid 30s, is that 34c or 36c, and I also would rather accept the Greek met agency's description of the normal Crete climate of max temperatures of about 29-30c in July, versus your own anecdotal evidence of going to crete lots of times in recent years where sometimes the temperatures go above 30c

    So I decided to check

    https://www.worldweatheronline.com/crete-weather-averages/crete/gr.aspx

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    You're either mistaken, you're just lying

    The weather in Southern Europe this year is absolutely NOT normal

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Goddard the old deceiver. A bit of

    "Changing your name to ... hide the credibility gap"


    Its a bit depressing to see the same old meme resurfacing 10 years after they were actually disproved. Look at the dates on some of these sources. Pathetic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,415 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Its the Dunning Kruger effect.

    People that think they know enough about the science to be able to completely disregard all of the evidence, thereby revealing that they know way less than they think they do, and should just shut up and stop making themselves look like idiots

    Climate change deniers are one step away from flat earthers except at least flat earth conspiracy theorists are harmless

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cabbage has been notably absent from Lidle and Aldi for the last few weeks. No home made coleslaw for this bad boy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,687 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    Decimomannu in Sardinia is 45C right now which is 13C higher than their usual July Max of 31.6C.

    Brief "cool down" to 37C maxes Thursday and Friday and then back to 40's again...

    Hottest i ever experienced was 38C before and that was unbearable for more than a few minutes outside for me, 7C hotter again is just unimaginable to me.

    Have a weather station?, why not join the Ireland Weather Network - http://irelandweather.eu/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,943 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    Climate change/global warming is a religion to the extremists as with every polarising topic. It's part of the human condition.

    So if you're not screaming from the roof tops about climatetastrophe you're a flat earther to the extremists.

    Same way you're a card carrying member of the KKK if you think unfettered immigration has its downsides.



  • Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Let me correct you - climate change is a science and it's denial is an evidence free religion.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,813 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Mod note: Posts deleted , need to cut out the personal attacks.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,415 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    If you think 'unfettered' immigration has it's downsides, you're in for a rude awakening when millions of people get dislocated as their current homes become uninhabitable due to deadly heatwaves, droughts, floods and famine

    And there is absolutely nothing 'religious' about looking at the evidence of climate change

    In contrast, to your position which is to ignore the actual science in favour of some kind of intuition?

    There is no scientific explanation for the observed warming other than AGW

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,113 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,113 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Who cares if people think this is natural, man made or a mixture.

    The fact is it’s happening and I don’t think anyone in any thread on boards.ie is disputing otherwise.

    The big question is what do we do to prepare as we sure as hell can’t stop it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,113 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,113 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    To be fair Akrasia is correct in saying we (Ireland) are going to be completely inundated with climate refugees- which is a bit of a disaster when you look at our already creaking and overloaded infrastructure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,415 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    We sure as hell have to stop it, because what we're seeing now is 1.5c of warming. If we let fossil fuel companies extract all their reserves we're looking at 3-5c of warming before the end of the century.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,113 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    It’s extremely arrogant to think humans have the power to stop climate change tbh.

    I said this to you yesterday, economies demand consumerism which drives enviromental degradation.

    Which part of that equation are you willing to break to hope that humans can stop climate change?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,415 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Humans can stop human caused emissions. We have the technology to produce energy without carbon emissions. It's a political decision, and people like you with attitudes like yours are just playing into the hands of the sociopaths who would rather enrich themselves than allow a decent future for ourselves and the next generation

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,113 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    We don’t have technology that produces energy without carbon emissions all the time.

    As you well know renewables are intermittent and we rely on fossil fuels for energy for when the sun out out is low in winter and when there is very low wind output.

    We have been over this before.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,415 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Let's try these ideas first, and if they don't work, we can doom ourselves to the inevitable collapse of civilization we'll see by following the instructions of the oil and gas lobbiests



    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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  • Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I aint the sort of person who gardens, if it came to that then I would starve with the rest of the city folk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,992 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Your last paragraph as a point is just painful. Yes rainfall has increased in the latest release of 30 year averages that doesn’t mean there still can’t be droughts. No where did Met Eireann say they’ll never be periods of dry weather ever again so I’m not sure what point you thought you were making but it makes zero sense nor does it prove anything. This is what they’re up against, people imagining stuff and not being able to grasp basic information.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,766 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    So.. "Good luck sorry I doomed you to live in this?"


    A global 1 child policy could mitigate some of the suffering, no amount of electric cars or solar panels will accomplish as much as cutting population growth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,211 ✭✭✭Jizique


    Indeed, but people are not prepared to make the sacrifice required - they wont even give up their pets



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,415 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Yeah. Like if they were paying any attention they would have seen Italy struggle with a multi year drought followed by devastating flash floods.

    Rainfall patterns are changing. Met Eireann predict more intense precipitation events, which is less useful for agriculture and more damaging to infrastructure

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,415 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Genius. Or, maybe we start with the low hanging fruit and focus first on the people who consume way more than their fair share, Tax the rich and produce our energy using renewables, prohibit the most wasteful luxuries like private airplanes, cruise liners, increase carbon taxes starting with the wealthiest first, introduce property taxes for 2nd + homes, higher taxes on huge wasteful houses to cover their environmental footprint

    Stop the production and import of single use plastics, and enforce higher standards on consumer goods to prevent all the middle Aisle crap and 2 euro shop tat that fills up our landfills....

    Force producers to take back their products and recycle them (properly) if they break after an unreasonably short length of time...

    Do all this, and more, and then we can think about ripping newborn babies from their mothers arms and taking puppies and goldfish off children

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,415 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    There are about 300k ultra high net worth individuals worldwide

    Just 20 of the 2000 or so Billionaires emit 165 thousand tonnes of CO2 just from their own Housing, Transportation and Luxury Yachts. Not to mention all of the other extravagant expenditures that cause huge emissions and their business ventures

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    There are 59 countries in the world where Per Capita CO2 emissions are lower than 1 tonne per year per person. On average, these 20 individuals' each produce as much personal CO2 emissions as 20,000 individuals living in these 59 countries

    There are 300,000 or so “ultra high net worth individuals” who each hold more than US$30 million in assets.These people also consume way more than their fair share of resources.

    Tax the sh1t out of them until their emissions fall to the average in their country of residence. (actually fall, not pretend fall by buying carbon credits)

    Doing this will force them to support government measures and investments to reduce carbon emissions across all sectors of the economy and will by the 'trickle down' theory of "making rich people spend some of their money on socially responsibility instead of using it to burn the world to the ground" we might actually stand a chance of making it to the 22nd century

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,479 ✭✭✭highdef


    sef

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    Malaga airport had an amazingly warm night with a low of 31° at midnight local time (times above are UTC). What's even more impressive is that by 02:00, it had risen to 35°, the change in wind direction from the hot land being very much at play there. I'm wondering if this was a record high temperature for that time of night?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    I love how the wealth is estimated but the emissions is not.

    Simon Harris is monitoring the situation...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭DownByTheGarden


    I got cabbage in Tesco yesterday. Pretty sure I saw it in Dunnes the other day too. Didnt seem to be any shortage of it. Perhaps they should try a different shop :)



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