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COYGIG - Women’s Football World Cup 23 **Mod Warning in Post #58**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,446 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    I get the feeling that some people think that just by us watching the womens team, they will somehow get better. I would have thought that once they get better, they would pull more of a crowd? People won't keep watching boring. I'm actually surprised mens soccer gets the crowds it does, seems to be very easy to entertain them for 90 minutes... But the mens game does at least have a baseline of quality, and from the few games I've seen, it's really poor on the womens team. Seems that they don't even have the basics down and often make stupid, small mistakes. Most mens games don't have that. So, at least from my perspective, the team needs to get better to keep my attention. Tis bandwagony, but that's how most people feel I reckon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,403 ✭✭✭sonofenoch



    They do get crowds it seems, at the highest level ...but they're certainly not what you'd consider a 'football crowd' more event trippers ......tbh I've tried watching it I see the crowds in attendance the enthusiasm of the commentary and wonder what the fuk am I missing? I just don't get it .......there are no obvious stand out players in the womens game ability wise nor any obvious villains it's all much of muchness 1 paced ....beyond drab, reckon smaller pitches smaller goals would have been a way to go forward but with the equality mantra that's never happening ......I'd equate it to underage kids playing full size game and trying to replicate the mens game the physicality is just not there for it .........I have no problem with women having their own platform but there's definite attempt at a crossover of codes by the media in general, they're trying to sell it on a par even on Irish tv you see advertised Ireland v so and so in WC qualifier .......it takes a bit of research to find out it's a womens International they failed to mention



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,038 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Sure look it's up to everyone to choose how they wish to convey their point of view. How people frame their opinions is just as important to how it will be received as the core opinion itself.

    For instance; "women's football bores me into a stupor it's atrocious, like watching someone you don't know playing a computer game simulation....badly", is obviously a more insulting choice of words than than simply saying; "I don't enjoy watching it, so will give it a miss".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,832 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Best of luck to the squad and i will be watching

    I do feel we might get a tanking by the Aussies and Canada



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,365 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    Best of luck to the team, I hope they do well as it will hopefully inspire more women/girls to take up the sport which can only be a good thing.

    I have to admit that I won't be watching though, I just find it tough going to watch as it's too slow and the goalkeepers are generally poor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,403 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Insulting to who? am I supposed to give someone elses opinion rather than my own not to cause insult.............if I said I thought the Tour de France was over hyped gets saturated coverage and I find it boring would that be insulting or 'unsportamnlike' ............the defending of womens football by those I would take a wild guess don't actually watch it to any degree is more condescending to women than my critical opinion of it



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 13,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Mod:-

    Just a warning to posters on this thread that blatant sexism, misogyny and offensive terminology will not be tolerated here, and those making such comments will be threadbanned.

    By all means discuss the merits or otherwise of Irish women’s soccer, but do not descend to nastiness, sniping and bickering with other posters simply because you disagree with them.


    JK



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,549 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    That’s a shame but the overall ticket sales so far have surpassed the last World Cup. Australia have large communities from all over the world living there which would help their sales figures and the tickets for group matches are reasonably priced. The higher priced ones I bought converted to less than 25 euros each.

    There’s no doubt about it that people aren’t booking packages to travel to it like they do for the men’s comp. So I’d say they’re still reliant on the TV market. Rome wasn’t built in a day though so hopefully it keeps gaining fans as the years go ahead.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭sekond


    I (and my 11 year old daughter) will be watching as many of the games as we can manage. She plays and its great for her to see women representing their country playing the same position she does (those rubbish goalkeepers someone was talking about!), and maybe wonder could she do the same herself one day. The rest of the family will have no choice to but watch with us and expect will end up very invested in the whole thing by the end. We've a few nationalities and allegiances in the family so we've a few teams to follow, and I'm sure battle lines will be drawn at some stage.

    I'd have loved to have had women's football to watch and aspire to myself as a football mad teenager (although I was objectively rubbish at playing).

    Yes, the quality might not be the same as the men's game, and the investment certainly isn't anywhere near that level, but that doesn't mean it won't be an enjoyable few weeks of football (and there's certainly less rolling around on the ground pretending they are dying because someone breathed on them in the women's game)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭Stranger Things


    Will follow along with Twitter etc.

    Do feel like if the women had smaller goals and maybe smaller pitch dimensions the women’s game would be much improved and would do a lot for the women’s game but would not happen with equality being pushed

    Good luck to the Irish, not sure how good we are but must be decent to be at a World Cup. COYGIG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭optogirl


    an Irish team have qualified for a World Cup. Hardly bandwagon jumping to be interested in that. I will definitely try to watch as many games as I can - a fantastic achievement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,018 ✭✭✭Barnaboy


    This thread is a bit sad and predictable. I'll watch what I can. Enjoyed the Euros, some very good games.

    I'm a life long fan of league of ireland soccer so can relate to a lot of this. Replace women with LOI in the replies and most of it rings true. Rushing to judgement without bothering to go and watch.

    Both men's and women's leagues here are on the way up. But FAI needs to invest, particularly for the women if we want more World Cup appearances.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,365 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    What about those of us that have watched and find the game for too slow and the goalkeepers in particular very poor.

    Not everyone is dismissing it without watching it. I just can't get into it and this is coming from a Bray Wanderers fan so I'm used to terrible football.

    I agree with the other posters that suggested making the pitch and nets slighter smaller, this would improve the pace of the game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,476 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    There isn’t the money to invest from the FAI. The LOI, woman’s football, every aspect of the domestic sport has been chronically underfunded and ignored for decades… to the point it’s going to take the best part of a billion ( yeh good luck attaining that ) to bring it up to scratch….





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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,229 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    Looking forward to it.

    Hope we'll be spared the sound Irish fans trying desperately hard to show us all how sound they are this time around.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭Fotish


    Hopefully the womens teams will be successful in getting parity of payment with the mens teams , it’s the least they deserve.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,141 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Are you talking about the national team? If so, they have been getting paid the same as the men for a few years now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,868 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    It's the least they deserve? So you think they should be getting more than the men's team? What ever happened to equality?!?




    (I'm not really bothered, just a bit of devil's advocacy...) 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,832 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    So will there be a 'Male version of World Cup hotties thread' for this World Cup ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭Fotish


    Just commented after looking at this headline…

    “ Australia's Matildas release video statement calling out gender disparity in World Cup prize money “



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,346 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    From reports I've seen, the women's world cup prize money pool is around €100 million and the men's world cup prize money pool was €400 million. It's simple, the women's game doesn't generate the same revenue so they don't deserve the same pay



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,476 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Canada and Australia are both ahead of Ireland in the betting and ability too so, gonna need some serious performances…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,832 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Definitely

    Hope its not a bit of a false dawn for us and doesn't turn into a bit of a disaster

    Reports from the last friendly is that Columbia were miles ahead of us



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,476 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Another worry is our form..

    Drew with China...Lost to the US twice without scoring...Beat Zambia by a goal, lost 0-3 to France at home… all those games in the last 5 months or so… we’ve really no form…..

    Denise O’Sullivan has an injury, Columbia did a number on her and other players in that closed door friendly that was abandoned so it’s unknown or not being admitted to how much football she’ll miss.

    what is obvious is how truly awful a decision it was, by the Irish management to play an international friendly, especially against physical South American opposition just 6 days before the start of a World Cup….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Qualifying was a good achievement It doesn't really matter how well the team does and they're in a tough group so no shame if they get knocked out early.

    All I'm hoping for from this tournament is that America don't win it, they are a thoroughly unlikable entitled group of whingers in my opinion. Some great players but impossible to warm to them as a team.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,736 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    As long as they dont emulate the horrendous exploits of the womens rugby team it'll be an achievement.

    An awful group they got drawn into.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    Last call for anyone who wants to join the sweepstake as first game kicks off at 8am our time tomorrow

    Think there’s only 3 or 4 of us so far 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,910 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    I hope the Aussies arent too rough on the Irish women or they might walk off the pitch again....

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭Everlong1


    I've been watching their progress for some time now and have gone out to see them play in Tallaght. I'll be watching all the games and have just hung a Tricolour out of my upstairs front window.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,832 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    I just want to say that "Outbelieve" is such a horrendous slogan.

    It is **** awful. The sort of shite that comes up in a brainstorming session and sounds brilliant for about 20 seconds before everybody realises that its actually just nauseating. Whatever marketing dumbass decided to run with it as the main slogan deserves to be shot and then sacked, if ever you wanted proof that the womens game is a half assed afterthought then look no further than that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    @[Deleted User] @Liam O @Darkglasses @Electric Nitwit @Cluedo Monopoly @taxAHcruel (plus daughters) @PsychoPete @Pwindedd @Shank Williams @TheProudHighway (plus daughter) @PTH2009 @JupiterKid @sekond (and daughter) @Stranger Things @optogirl @Barnaboy @Say Your Number @Fotish @Strumms @Jack Daw @pjohnson @Everlong1 @Rows Grower @Fr Tod Umptious @HildaOgdenx

    I have added you all to the sweepstake as you have shown an interest in watching the games. I’ve also added the mods even though they might not be watching, they have to monitor this thread so are involved. There was a pitiful 3 of us who signed up to it so…..er, yeah. You’re included cos we needed you 😂

    Oh, and those who mentioned their daughters - those girls have their own team too 🙂

    I’ll post up who you’ve got shortly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,898 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Don't do that I've no interest in this tournament.

    Take me off your list.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭StrawbsM




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    @AlmightyCushion you want Fr Tod’s spot ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,982 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Is my name there as I said I'd do it?

    Or am I one of the pitiful 3?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    You’re one of the 3 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 211 ✭✭Mo Ghile Mear




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,120 ✭✭✭✭Electric Nitwit


    Go for it Strawbs 🙂

    Just give me someone good 😉



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,557 ✭✭✭Archduke Franz Ferdinand


    I wish the women’s team the very best of luck in the World Cup. But… l do wish that RTE stopped trying to present it as Italia 90. It’s not. And a lot of men won’t watch it. That might not be a fashionable thing to say, but there you go, l do think however it will get a lot of young girls interested in sport which can only be good



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,923 ✭✭✭✭Liam O


    "A lot of men won't watch it"

    I would say in general men would have a much larger interest in football than women (obvious generalisation, people can do or like whatever they want) so would be more likely to watch it.

    My group of football supporting lads who've been to both Euros in our adult lives all watched the qualifier and though it was a cagey game it was a great watch with the tension involved.

    I don't have high hopes as the quality just is not there for the Irish team but women's sport is often let down by women not watching or engaging more than men who would be more likely to sign their daughters up for sports like this.

    With even that said, can we just not begrudge this? It's a world cup and it's Ireland. If it was on in Italy everyone would be watching, just like Italia 90. As it is I hope everyone does try. Just a shame we were poxxed by the match times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭TheProudHighway


    You would have to wonder why so many people came in here to tell us they have no interest in this. You’d feel sorry for the women in their lives considering their attitudes toward them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    Ok, here’s who you’ve got.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,982 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    The die has been cast...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭StrawbsM




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,018 ✭✭✭Barnaboy


    Mmm... just looked up Morocco. 77th in world rankings. My interest in the sweepstake won't last long 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭StrawbsM




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,832 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭StrawbsM




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 211 ✭✭Mo Ghile Mear


    I have the girls in green!! ☘️🇮🇪

    Best of luck to them.



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