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Mayo GAA Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 820 ✭✭✭RedDevil55


    So far this Mayo squad have won a division 1 title and beaten Kerry and Galway away in championship.

    I think that compares quite favourably with any previous squads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    I watched the galway game back and have to say that they threw it away in the first half to a level that is hard to fathom. If the roles were reversed and it was mayo that was guilty of what galway were in the game, they would be getting called bottlers and worse from every corner, and it would be hard to disagree.

    While on the subject of galway, how many more games need to be totally dictacted by the wind in salthill before they do something about it? If it isnt fit for purpose at the height of summer, they should forget about it for intercounty games.

    Also, this stuff with odonoghue on kelly is nonsense. Cant see the incident properly for a start. Was it just a light tap as a warning for something kelly was at 10 seconds earlier? Was it even on the ankle?

    Personally, I think if you are that injured that a light contact could do that much damage then you shouldnt be playing, and his management team have let him down by selecting him. I recall c oconnor's dislocated shoulder in 2013. When he got back for the final, the first thing he got was an almightly belt of a shoulder from one of the dublin defenders. It was a ruthless hit. If his shoulder wasnt right it could have ended his days as a footballer. But he was on the pitch and if the guy next to him could be hit with it then why shouldnt he be hit with it also? I dont think you should expect people to treat you with kids gloves because you had an injury. If rod taps hernons ankle with his foot there is no furore, so why shouldnt he be able to do it for kelly? If he isnt fit take him off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,633 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    Joyce shows absolutely zero duty of care towards his players.

    His whinge after the match was another low point for him.

    An egotistical moan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Sebastian Dangerfield


    What did he say? Only interview I saw he seemed to be taking it on the chin and acknowledging it was their own fault



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,584 ✭✭✭MfMan


    There's a difference between a fair shoulder and a sly, calculated rake down on a players injured leg. What ROD did was mean and unworthy of him and hopefully out of character.

    I've been at plenty of games in Castlebar which have also been dictated by the wind. Learning how to play, and score, into the elements is one of the fundamental challenges of playing GAA. Mayo had no difficulty in the opening 8 minutes yesterday with this aspect.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Watched the game back there, a few things I noted:

    - we got hands on 5 kickouts in the first half (at least 3, maybe 4 in the 2nd) that we lost, small margins

    - the ref did well when both teams were trying to waste time with "head injuries"

    - Galway were 7-3 up after 21 mins, only got 1 point for the rest of the half, brutal from their point of view

    - Diarmuid should have had a black in the first half, v lucky to get away with it

    - Eoghan Mc needs some 1-1 coaching, he's very poor at a lot of the basic techniques

    - we were 1-9 to 9 up in the 58th min, only got 1 more point (Carr in the 72nd min), poor enough

    - conceding the kickouts was a good strategy, not something we usually do but it worked

    - after we lost 3 kickouts in a row and Galway brought it back to 1 point, Hession came short for the kickout which ultimately lead to Carr's point, brilliant leadership from him

    - Paddy Durcan was motm for me, he was phenomenal



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Kelly wasn't fit to play and it showed,Joyce has done this continually down the years and its never worked with injured players.Plenty of examples of poor judgement by him (his whinging about the ref being another)

    I don't know did Ryan try to go for kellys ankle and I dont care either way.Kill or be killed at this level,we've been on the receiving end enough times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,584 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Fair enough, don't gripe so when you are on the receiving end of it again. Donal Vaughan exacting retribution arguably cost ye the AI final in 2017.

    Who has Joyce picked before that was injured?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭HBC08


    I don't watch all that many galway games but Comer v Tyrone this year and Comer off the bench v Mayo in 2020 Connaught final when he was so fcuked he was out of breath by the time he ran into position.

    Leaving Walsh on v Mayo in 2021 Connaught final in Croker (after Walsh had decided to instigate a tussle with O Hora and came off second best to say the least)

    Leaving Kelly on the last day versus Armagh when he was in serious trouble.Starting Kelly against Mayo,playing Comer against Mayo,I could probably go on.

    Do you watch a lot of football?



  • Posts: 123 [Deleted User]


    this is the mayo thread and there is a quarter final in 5 days, why are you discussing another county managers selections over the last 3 years. You are usually the first person to moan about this sort of stuff



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,663 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    He was clearly responding to another poster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,584 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Walsh was replaced that day in Croker, as was Sean Kelly in Carrick, as soon as was practicable. Comer was replaced at ht last Sunday, as he reported in the dressing room that his hamstring was tightening up. Kelly, he just had to play, such is his influence.

    If you don't watch all that many Galway games then how can you claim what Joyce's selection policy is with injured players?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭finisklin


    McBrien's goal was well taken and a great strong run for the 1-2. Kelly and Daly were caught here. Not sure if Kelly injury was a reason.

    That goal is up there for goal of the year alongside McLaughlin's aganst Kerry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    I was at the match and have not watched it back yet. Eoghan McLaughlin seemed to score a cracker of a goal, but it was ruled out. I couldn't see it properly - it was down the far side from us. Was it ruled out for over-carrying?

    Got sorted for ticket yesterday. But I just see that none available on ticketmaster now. I'm sure there will be a big crowd there, but I presume it is ticketmaster playing little tricks again, to build hype.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,709 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    Was off yesterday so hoovered up a lot of podcasts. The Stephen O’Meara one is very good on tactics, put a lot of the good stuff down to Kevin McL, his ability to find pockets of space and draw in extra players.

    Some serious balls shown by the management team, the bit the bullet on Loftus, not an easy thing to do when hes played all but one game this year at 6. The also dropped a massive name in Ruane, to me it looked like he was fairly petulant on the sideline as a result, McHale was down at one stage coaxing him. He didn’t exactly make a strong case for inclusion when he came on. Having said that I’m not sure Croke park or the dubs will suit Kevin McL or Jason Doc.

     

    I was happy enough at half time, thought we were very patient with the ball, ran down the clock well, three awful misses kinda counteracted Galways misses. I felt we should have kicked on when three points up but watching it back you get more of a sense that Galway are a good team and we contained them to a large extend. The end of game management was brilliant, I know the crowd were going daft when we were going backwards but we were ahead, Galway had to do something. We put ourselves under pressure by Eoghan McLaughlin coughing up a turnover when he should have moved the ball. The last score we had came from 2 minutes of keep ball and then moving it when Galway got sloppy. It was brilliant to see.

     

    Paddy Durcan would have been my MOTM, he was fantastic, the speed he went after Tierney in the first half stopped a goal, even the skill to not dive in and just put on the pressure was unreal to see. Coen, Diarmuid, Conroy, Flynn and McBrien were all excellent as well. Even though Reape got cleaned out at kickouts, and I don’t think he was helped, he didn’t lose the head, he had three go to Galway before chipping that one out to Hession on 69 minutes, great composure. Think Carney will be lucky to keep his spot, he was fairly anonymous yesterday, similar to the Louth game, I suppose you have to remember hes a novice, all these games will add to his experience but I’d be starting someone else the next day

     

    Hard to know where the dubs are, one Div 1 opponent all year but they are still the dubs. 50-50 really, we have so many weaknesses, glaring weaknesses but I don’t think theres a team left that could have put in the 20 minutes we put in after HT on Sunday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,709 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    Put the head down and barged into the galway lad. So it was either that or steps, both valid enough IMO. The lack of footballing skill in McLaughlin is astounding, how can you make it this far and be so bad at the basics. Could easily have been sent off for repeated fouling or leading the head at one stage. But he is some athlete



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Sebastian Dangerfield


    I got a link from my club here in Dublin which was noted as having a seperate allocation from the main sale, and there are loads there all over the ground. Lots more to be released during the week for sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Darragh Maloney & Eamon Fitz thought it was overcarrying but I saw it as being blown (correctly) for barging



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭HBC08


    "Kelly,he just had to play,such is his influence "

    You're making my point for me.PJ has repeatedly played injured players,the fact that are are key players doesn't change that.Mayo would like to have played Cillian for the last 18 months but he was injured,you do understand this concept yes?

    Walsh wasn't taken off as soon as possible in the Connaught final in 2021.He made an ill judged attempt to start something with O Hora and got a very bad injury out of it.This was in the first half,he was given and injection at ht and played a good bit of the 2nd half.

    Maybe I watch more Galway football than you after all.

    As has been mentioned this is the Mayo thread,I won't be responding to you on here again.If you like take it over to the main thread and you can embarrass yourself there instead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Could have been either,I dont think we can have any complaints either way.I only saw the replay on the day and counted 12 steps.

    Eoghan tried to dummy one way and when that didn't work he didn't seem to have a plan B,it was a nice finish though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,071 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Didn't want to go all in on him straight after the match but he nearly cost us it at times. He gave away a very soft free and ran into 3 Galway players coughing up possession at a vital stage, all in the space of a few minutes.

    To his credit though, he was in the right spot to cover for Reape late on.

    I wouldn't have him finishing big games, he's too likely to be a liability. His strengths are there for all to see, but they're not on the footballing side of things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭crusd


    Kelly wasnt fit, but he was still one of their best performers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,709 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    He gets himself into great positions though, do you just accept that he can't solo the ball?


    The turnover towards the end put us under real pressure when we didn't need to be



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,663 ✭✭✭Blackjack


    I thought he was fouled for that turnover myself



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    Didn't seem to be a foul in real time there anyway. I could see the couple of Galway fellas homing in on him, and I thought "oh fu@k". He just didn't seem to have the composure to get rid of it on time.

    But I think he should start against Dublin. Need that pace up the wing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    How do you know odonoghue raked his cogs on the injured ankle when you could see neither persons feet? Did he rake it? Barely touch it? Miss it completely? Was it the right ankle? You have filled in all the blanks here yourself - each one suiting your own personal view.

    What we can say for sure is that whatever connection was made, odonoghue wouldnt have been able to generate a whole pile of force from that movement. The only time that would do damage was when the guy on the receiving end wasnt fit to be there.

    Personally, id be asking why the mgt didnt select mcdaid to play as the sweeper, with finnerty on in the forwards kicking with the wind he plays in week in week out for his club, rather than picking a lad who could be so badly affected by the lightest of touches to his ankle. It was madness on their part to pick him. The injury was always going to be tested out. I think odonoghue was just keeping him honest and letting him know that if he wanted to be grabbing hold of lads off the ball and trying to act the g*bshite, then that could be done back to him too. He let go fairly sharpish.


    Re the wind, there is wind at every ground, there isnt that kind of wind in the height of summer though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭crusier


    Could you not make a goal out of it even with your rose tinted glasses.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,149 ✭✭✭✭Cartman78


    Lads...after making a major boo-boo there 😭

    Over in France camping with dodgy WiFi....trying to get tickets for Sunday all morning....at one stage I actually managed to get a pair as far as checkout but the app crashed.

    In a state of mild panic (and with the kids hassling me to go to the pool) I went straight back into the app and lo and behold got 4 tickets in the Davin End....wasn't until I got the email that I realised they're for the fupping Saturday matches 😂

    Doesn't seem to be too much of a chance of refund so if you know anyone looking for 4 tickets (2 Adult, 2 Juvenile) let me know



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭MayoAreMagic


    Ya, I had a great view of it. They didnt foul him to be fair. He was probably unlucky with the steps call in truth, you see lads get away with more steps than that. It was probably just the awkward look of it. He is very raw. He gets caught the wrong side for a lot of tackles and then fouls. The one early in the first half was a bad one as we had the guy surrounded. He has a good type of cynicism about him though that we are probably short on in general. A couple of those fouls were deliberate also and its about time we caught up on that front.

    He will definitely feature against dublin.

    Who picks up Ocallaghan is the one for me. Not sure who will match him up. Mcbrien maybe?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭MacDanger




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