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Mixed race couples on tv ads **Mod Warning in Post #556**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    If your only exposure to Ireland was advertisements, you'd be forgiven for thinking the country was 70% black.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭Juran


    Some adverts are made for the company, and not regional eg. Proctor & Gamble (tampax, oral-b), Unilever (Dove, Radox, Persil), roll out the same advert in US and Europe, with only the voices differ (british english, or french, german, etc).

    If you are in India or SE Asia you see similar adverts with local people, rather than the US/Europe version.

    But I do agree with previous posters, adverts for Irish companies (BOI, AIB, Vodafone ireland, local insurance companies, Milk, Butter, etc) do almost all have mixed race couples.

    Is it to look PC, or are the advertising companies following the formats set by US, UK and some european advertising companies?

    We holiday a lot in France, and have noticed the same for french adverts the past 3 or 4 years. French Adverts for peas, yogurts, shampoos, car tyres, etc. Have only coloured families or mixed race. We both said last October when watching tv at night, we didnt see one advert with a white family all week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    It's pandering to the woke agenda.

    It's partly based on fear, feel they must "look good".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭89897




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,203 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    Apparently the woke agenda today is privately owned companies putting mixed race couples in their advertisements.

    What has the world come to.

    Most self proclaimed free speech absolutists are giant big whiny snowflakes!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,509 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    No, it's pandering to their actual customers. Ageing racists and bigots are a much smaller demographic and often not likely to even buy anything off these companies, so their opinion on this is irrelevant.

    I've studied marketing, digital marketing and market research and demand for this type of inclusive advertising frequently comes from their own customers (companies and brands know this through polling, surveys, focus groups etc).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭cal naughton


    Why is there no members of the traveling community in ad's ?

    Not very inclusive to exclude them. They are also actual customers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,881 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    How would you tell if there are or aren't travellers in ads?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭cal naughton


    For a start they could get members we are all aware off. Martin beanz word, John Connors and Eileen Flynn.

    Good idea don't you think?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭Arthur Pants
    Overlord




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,509 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I would agree on that 100%. You could definitely argue that certain minorities are over represented in the quest for diversity, whilst others are seriously under represented.

    This can apply to all types of minorities too - not that often you see disabled people in adverts for example or any representation of people on the autism spectrum or with special needs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,881 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH




  • Posts: 276 ✭✭ Daniella Rancid Gent


    I've noticed this alot with advertising and marketing in Ireland and it it's me but I understand why companies jump on the band wagon.

    It's odd that the recruiting for the advertisements are racially motivated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,881 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    It's not "racially" motivated. It's REVENUE motivated. Companies want to appeal to as broad a demographic as possible so they can hock their wares to more people.

    It's pretty much the same schtick that's been going on since Bernays convinced women that smoking was a sign of "independence" and "freedom" and encouraged ad companies to include women in their adverts so they could sell more of their crap to them.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,937 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Surely if they wanted to appeal to more buyers, they'd have more Asian, Polish, Indian, Ukrainian folk in Irish adverts?

    There is more Chinese in Ireland than black people.

    Over twice as many Polish. Same for Ukrainians.

    If it's positive discrimination, all races should be included.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,881 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Maybe there's more Asians and Indians on the way? And the people losing their shit about a few blacks on their tele can have a further meltdown.

    Again though, how would one know if there aren't already Polish or Uranian folk in adverts? Not everyone in an advert has a speaking role. In fact, the vast majority of people in adverts don't have speaking roles. You can't tell if someone is Polish, Ukrainian, or a traveller if they just show up on an ad and don't open their mouth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭Tavrin Callas


    I'm surprised that people even watch ads close enough to notice something like that. I can't remember the last time I actually sat through an ad, and that's not because I don't watch terrestrial TV. I do. But when the ads come on, I flick channels, or check my phone, or pause and go to the loo and then fast forward back to the programme, or whatever. The few glimpses I get are hardly enough to even register what the ad is for, never mind the ethnicity of those who appear.

    And even if I did notice, I wouldn't care. This is a gigantic non-issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 123 ✭✭Tavrin Callas


    any representation of people on the autism spectrum

    How exactly would you expect to spot an autistic person in an ad??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,853 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Or a few of the lads from the call out videos.

    Plenty front of camera experience too.



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  • Posts: 276 ✭✭ Daniella Rancid Gent


    Of course its racially motivated. These actors in these adverts are solely hired based on their skin colour.

    It would be some coincidence that actors of different skin colours are appearing in most ads now only due to their acting skills.

    Funny enough I would say that in my areas the largest ethnicity is Asian but I don't see them in Irish adverts. Funny that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,881 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Sigh...

    So you just didn't understand what I said then.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭newmember2


    I can't remember the last time I actually sat through an ad, and that's not because I don't watch terrestrial TV. I do. But when the ads come on, I flick channels, or check my phone, or pause and go to the loo and then fast forward back to the programme, or whatever. The few glimpses I get are hardly enough to even register what the ad is for, never mind the ethnicity of those who appear.

    Cool story an' all, but if you don't watch the ads then that's your contribution to the topic?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭Jaffa3000


    I fail to see how it is revenue motivated when the way to do that would be to exclusively hire white Irish people. Plus as others have said, its never Asian people in these ads



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,881 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Yep. You certainly do fail to see it.

    Look, Ireland's demographics are changing, whether you like it or not. So ad companies will want to target those demographics in an effort to expand their market and accrue more revenue from possible sales. Whether this will work or not is still up in the air as there's no data to show that it has or hasn't worked.

    But that's what ad companies have been doing since marketing began.

    Again, look up Bernays in the early part of the 20th century and you'll get a good idea of where the modern ad campaign originated from and why certain people are gathered within certain ads for products.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭Jaffa3000


    Well over 90% of people in Ireland are white and there are more Asians than black people. You’re totally ignoring reality.

    We can quite accurately say this strategy doesn’t work, based off other recent media productions such as Rings of Power and Bud Light (and many more).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,881 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Irish companies ALREADY sell the majority of their goods to white Irish people. They want to expand beyond that.

    This isn't hard to understand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,367 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    No, it's pandering to their actual customers. Ageing racists and bigots are a much smaller demographic and often not likely to even buy anything off these companies, so their opinion on this is irrelevant.

    But are their customers really mixed race couples/families, ?

    And what I mean by mixed race is that one of the couple/parents is white, the other black.

    There are lots of different ethnic groups in Ireland at this stage, but in reality there is very little mixing of those groups.

    In everyday life I see black families/couples, white families/couples, Asian families/couples, Indian families/couples but I rearly see a mix of any of them.

    So if the ad agencies were actually pandering to their customers then they would show single race families rather than mixed ones.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭Jaffa3000


    Your proposition before was that having highly disproportionate amount of black people in ads means selling more products to black people. But now you are saying the converse isn't true (that having less white people means selling less to white people). Which is it?



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  • Posts: 700 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sick to death of this!



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