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Mixed race couples on tv ads **Mod Warning in Post #556**

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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Haven't seen it in SuperValu or anywhere else for ages.


    Also...




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,740 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Just seems like a fairly obvious solution for those who are deeply offended by the numbers of mixed race families they are forced to witness on TV.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Who is deeply offended and who is being forced to watch TV?


    You are basically imagining a solution to a problem you yourself have imagined.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,740 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Have I misunderstood the whole purpose of this thread?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,459 ✭✭✭standardg60


    I'd say that's a fur-lined ocean going misunderstanding.

    Only one person expressed outrage, but that was due to good ole Mary1921.

    It's more about pointing out the shameless virtue signalling of companies when advertising their products



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,035 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop


    Has anyone suggested that maybe the PR companies are creating these TV ads for many different markets (UK, Europe, Elsewhere)? You know, places where mixed race couples are prevalent and the people there are not as miniscule minded as some in this thread make out to be.

    I mean FFS, if you're going to complain about seeing a white person and a coloured person in an acted relationship in a made up scenario that is purely designed to get you to part with your money and consume, then you really should take as deep a look at yourself as your brain is capable of.

    At a very minimum get away from the screen and go for a walk.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,740 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




  • Registered Users Posts: 491 ✭✭Major Lovechild


    Who cares what colour people are?

    Wo ist die Gemütlichkeit?



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,853 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    Well, I'd be concerned if someone started turning blue.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 491 ✭✭Major Lovechild


    Wo ist die Gemütlichkeit?



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,182 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    The one area I have noticed some Eastern European names cropping up is in education and even science.

    Ever notice entrants in the Young Scientist with Central & Eastern European names ?

    Ever notice reports of kids doing well in leaving cert again with Central & Eastern European names ?

    This appears to be where some are concentrating their efforts and fair fecks to them.

    Every website (and this is very much international trend), every brochure, etc has to have a requisite number of females, black people, Asian people, etc.

    Of course the old rules of advertising still remain : no fatties, no baldies, no uglies, etc.

    Disabled is definitely now allowed, but of course they must be good looking disabled people.

    It is like when you see a brochure for something you know would be normally a male dominated area and it has a gorgeous woman in it.

    It just aint reality.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Looks like someone doesn't watch TV... These are clearly Irish ads with Irish themes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,846 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    What is the requisite number for holiday brochures? I counted about 27 white people, mixture of male, female, adult, children, on a 2022 brochure. One Asian looking woman, but no black people or other colours.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    Centre Parcs Ireland, pretty much anything from any government department nowadays.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's funny how some people think the anti-virtue signalling crowd are somehow deeply offended by seeing black people on TV. Like people are sitting in an armchair red-faced and foaming at the mouth at the sight of mixed-race relationships.


    It's not seeing people of colour on TV that's the problem. It's the thinking that goes into making these ads that's offensive. They are obviously trying to shoehorn in a token black person in every ad. This type of tokenism is arguably more racist. Like we've ticked the box we are God's people. Job Done.


    I wonder how "diverse" the teams making this advertising are.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Shouldn't we have Road Safety ads with Black drivers behaving badly then? Rather than it always being a white guy behaving like a tool.

    Always wondered why there were never such ads showing women causing crashes. I guess representation is only important when the ad promotes something positive.



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,846 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    But there is no evidence or proof given that any group is being over or under represented in advertising. Just anecdotal reports from individuals.



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,035 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop


    100% correct. I have not had a subscription to a TV service for over a decade. I have a PC hooked up to the monitor. Netflix and Youtube. With ad blockers. I detest ads. Only time I see them is at a bar during sports etc. Even that I don't pay much attention to.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,740 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Are you sure about that? The product is still being sold today.




  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    I'm very sure. Could you point out Uncle Ben on the packaging??



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,740 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    This might be a shock to you, but Uncle Ben isn't a real person. When I say that 'Uncle Ben hasn't been cancelled', I'm referring to the products sold under that name. What are you referring to when you say Uncle Ben was cancelled?

    The photo on the pack was the photo of a head waiter in a fancy Chicago restaurant where the marketing people used to hang out, nothing to do with actually growing rice.

    The product line hasn't been cancelled.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    The point is that the PRODUCT wasn't. They still make the same rice.

    Who gives a fuck what's on the packaging. Companies rebrand all the time.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Exactly. Who gives a f*ck what's on the packaging would be most people's viewpoint. But apparently someone decided "Uncle Ben" was racist and the company sh*t their pants and re-branded instead of standing up for their product and pointing out that "Uncle Ben" is a character and there's nothing racist about him.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    So what?

    Why would that get your knickers in a twist.

    You can still buy the rice.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭FGR


    I for one am outraged that there are ads containing couples - more specifically ads with more than one person. It's offensive and should be banned.

    What we need are more ads of single people sitting there by themselves at the table enjoying their feed of Generic Inoffensive Microwave Rice.


    /coat



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,182 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Are holiday brochures still a thing ?

    I bet there are no old ugly fat or pasty white red heads in them anyway.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,846 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    That's because of the old rules. Lots of holiday brochures online. Is there anywhere online I can find the requisite numbers you know about etc.

    Every website (and this is very much international trend), every brochure, etc has to have a requisite number of females, black people, Asian people, etc.

    Of course the old rules of advertising still remain : no fatties, no baldies, no uglies, etc.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    You cannot help but notice the blatant ploy in media & advertisements to make the agenda acceptable and more prevalent than it is! Criticism is warranted. I do not object to people of (any) colour in adverts, but commercialism always does something for a mercantile reason... Native's cannot help but notice that people in adverts seem to represent a completely different country, and are bound to wonder why. Some even dare to do so aloud!

    When you compare English media and advertisements that we receive in Ireland it is in proportion to its minority groups. Ireland is nowhere as diverse demographically as in England but yet the representation of the same minority group in Ireland is disproportionate and overly represented.

    • In England, 86.0% (48,209,395) of the population are white, the black community accounts for 3.5% (1,846,614)
    • In Ireland, 92% of the population are white, Ethnic Irish 82.5% (3,854,226), the black community accounts for 1.4%

    This is not an issue of race, but more dishonesty by corporate capitalism. For such a small % of our population, black people are overly represented and featured in adverts on Irish TV and ads on other platforms. Diversity & inclusion doesn't seem to extend to East and South Asians, who are never represented and are invisible in Irish media, especially when they account for 2.1% of the population. The same goes for those of the Eastern European/Slavic population in Ireland who have the larger representation. Are they too pale, too Christian The fact of the matter is that diversity only seems to represent a particular minority community while excluding other communities that represent are larger %. If Diversity and inclusion is the politic, then make sure that all are equally & accurately represented, not are excluded. Include People with Downs Syndrome or wheelchair users, for that matter! Travellers, make up 0.7% of the population compared to 1.4% black population.

    There are people in Ireland who are far to invested in the diversifying of everything. They see race and colour in everything. They see themselves as some moral authority. They see Ireland as a country that lack's diversity and that they are the ones who know what's best for the greater good. But thas Dee Forbe's RTE and the Irish media who think they broadcast to America instead of Portlaoise. American identity politics has been imported and is being forced upon us by our state broadcaster, mainstream & news media as well as activists masquerading as journalists who are all to obsessed with skin colour and race issues. All of the course the NGOs are collecting their silver.

    The USSR practised "socialist realism" in the arts, whereby writers, artists, film producers etc were obliged to portray the world not as it was but in way which carried very distinct positive messages about how people should live - that's where the Irish advertising industry is now......



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