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Another thing to consider is that Prigozhin stayed in Rostov with the main body of his troops, whereas the thunder run to Moscow was apparently led by the man who, for many years was considered the founder of Wagner, Dmitriy Utkin.

I'm not sure what the relationship is between the two of them but clearly Prigozhin had enough authority to stop Utkin in his tracks. He must have given him a good reason to halt. So that's another person who probably knows a lot more than everyone else does right now. The more people in the know, the more likely it will be to leak out at some point.

The bots are saying it’s a masterstroke by Putin as now Wagner is only 100km from Kyiv.

After raping, thieving, paedophiling and murdering their way as far as Berlin in 1945 the soldiers of the red army would also have been released back into the wild when they returned home. These degenerate drunkard deviants didn't just transform into upstanding family men and everybody lived happily ever after. This is the russians' issue to deal with; hordes of angry, feral brutes roaming free and causing nothing but carnage and mayhem.

I wonder if a small group of special forces types (50 -100) landed on the Kremlin by helicopter could they overthrow the government at the moment. I suspect that they could.

Alexey Dyumin's name is now popping up more frequently as Shoigu's successor. There had been speculation during Prigozhin's mutiny that Dyumin was pulling the strings. Dyumin is currently governor of the Tula region. Unlike Shoigu, he is former military and was active as an intelligence agent in Crimea in 2014, so I guess he'll be popular with the Z-radical crowd.

It was on a dominant height so it was definitely the strongpoint in that defence.

This will open up a lot of possible routes of attack to south now for Ukraine - they wont be long getting to the first big entrenched line after this. Time for a big push soon

I think now that everyone has seen how easy it is to make your way to Moscow that some of these separatists groups that have popped up round Belgorod and other places might think it's worth having a go. They'll need to commandier some decent gear but seemingly you can rock up the the nearest base and take whatever is going without too much resistance. Its like the soviet firesale all over.

Just wondering what happened to Mrs Prigozhin and the kids. As far as I know they live in Moscow.

Prigozhin stopped his men before they got to Moscow. And he got nothing in return. He got to go to Belarus and that's it.

There's obviously some part of the deal that we don't know. Either Putin gave him something, maybe gave into some demand that we don't know of. Or Prigozhin suddenly had more to lose by continuing. I wouldn't put it past Putin to take the family hostage.

id put the house on the A-team being able to do it...

Rivnopil confirmed, that flattens the front line in that sector.

Prigozhin knows how Putin operates as well as anyone. There's no way he'd agree to relocate to Belarus if he thought that Putin was going to kill him. He'd at least try to put a bit of real distance there if he thought his life was in danger. Prigozhin must believe that he has something over Putin which would prevent a quick assassination.

Maybe Putin threatened to kill his family, so he had no choice but to go there. Whatever the truth is, there is no way Prigozhin called it all off to avoid bloodshed. He knew his coup would be defeated. Lukashenko now has one over on Putin too, he got him out of a jam. Lukashenko and the Russian MOD seem the real winners in all this for now.

That possibility has just increased:

Speculation on my part but I think Prigozhin may have been expecting some support at the higher levels in Moscow to materialise. When this failed to happen due to miscalculation or otherwise, he was forced to accept the offer of Lukashenko.

"more camps to some" - Well this is getting intriguing now