Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Those 24 hours might just turn out to be enough of the whispers of the Ukrainians crossing the Dnieper are valid. If they manage to secure the south bank then they'll have achieved something that wasn't at all likely a day ago. Fingers crossed.

You have to imagine that Pergozin got himself a deal from the Kremlin. This will make Putin look weak. Pergozin gets to avoid bloodshed and gets what he wants. If Shogyiu and Gerassimov are casualties of the deal then Putin is no longer in control.

Putin called him a backstabber today and now letting him off Scott free. Doesn’t add up.

Putin will have him dealt with in the near future, you can be sure of that.

With whatever he had 2 days ago. It's not that hard to understand a possible coup and civil war in Russia would have benefitted Ukraine greatly. This morning i was hoping for the Ukrainians to be chasing the Russians to the border as they fled to defend the homeland now they'll have to do it the hard way.

Still time. Ukraine don't have a huge amount of resources to go inflaming a situation which is inflaming perfectly well on its own thank you very much.

I mean despite the chaos its not as if Russia can't see from where attacks come.

I'm sure they'll make strategic hay when the time is right.

I don't buy the idea that this was all for show.

Putin looked incredibly vulnerable today and the whole world was watching. Prigozhin was ranting like a Traveller boxer and now he's just taking his foot off the pedal to calm things down? None of it makes sense, it just makes Russia look terribly disorganised and fragile.

With all that's gone on between Progozhin and Putin, any agreement will surely be an uneasy one. What happens when there's another setback in Ukraine? Does Prigozhin race back to Moscow and order Putin to sack more people? This ruins Putin's strongman reputation if he doesn't put Prigozhin in his place.

The fact that this doesn't seem to have been broadcast in Russia is what's interesting to me. Putin wouldn't want Russians to see how he was played by Prigozhin.

Yeah. Looks like two rich scumbags having a disagreement. And Prizoghin will now go back to taking orders from Putin?

None of this makes sense. Not a single part of it

Hmmmm

Putin does not run the show anymore. He'll be put on as a face of the company. The FSB and Armed forces abandoned Putin today. There is no way back for them and as a partnership.

The FSB didn't want Wagner to roll into Moscow as it would have made the nation look weak. They also didn't want civil disorder and battle lines in Ukraine to disintegrate.

The FSB still clearly want Crimea and Donbass and they would have lost it all if there were a few days on chaos.

Putin will be moved aside very soon. Maybe even arrested. This will keep relative civil order, instead of the clusterfuck that would have occured tonight. Putin will be put under house arrest and live out his days in the Dacha.

Can you imagine someone in US shooting down American helicopters, killing American soldiers, and then Biden ringing him up and saying '' I'm going to give you so so so much money, please stop ''

Russia really is comical

His authority Is gone.

Putin fled it seems, couldnt stop mercs taking a city , abandoned by his own FSB and MoD. Putin is done. Figurehead president maybe.

An Al Jazeera commenter indicated that Russian troops won't take this very well and may not be anxious to fight anymore. I wonder are we going to see mass desertions or surrender?