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Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭alps




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Hard to know. He might be sound tomorrow and no good the following day He might not go infertile at all either



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭cosatron


    He worked up an awful sweat going around after a cow and was out of sorts in the morning so we got the vet and it was pneumonia, we left him with them but a good few broke



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,633 ✭✭✭older by the day


    Time will tell. No more to say in the matter. Let no one be crying about increasing costs and tighter margins when it will cost over twenty euro to tag BVD test and genomic test a calf that may make a fiver



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭farmersfriend


    Vet told us if a Bull gets a high temperature he will be infertile fo up to 2months



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,405 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    How accurate are ICBF genomic for non Holsteins now? Even Friesians ?

    Obviously other countries have their genomic for their own breeds, but is that technology exchanged?

    While they've always been the dominant dairy breed, I would think that the controlling stake of IHFA in the ICBF never sat well with me. It may not be in the best interests of the Irish farmer in the long term. That said maybe we never had any viable option other than Holsteins anyway.

    The beef genomic system seem to be across breeds and we do see movement of how the index works within and between breeds as it progresses and gets more accurate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,057 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Genomic testing be handy for catching those who Register jex as Angus. Will help the calf buyers in the long run



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,849 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    and limos as aa etc etc Be other big benefits too down line once full herd is done like pin pointing a milk tank scc spike to a certain cow



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    I think this geno testing will be a super job

    zero chance of mix up of dams or bulls on a calf and if calf sec is incorrect it can be changed by ICBF/dept straight away



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,057 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    What size tank do ye have for holding water from inplate cooler for washing down?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,577 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    9k litres, has its own feed set to whatever level you like as well if for whatever reason more than what the plate cooler feeds it is required. Use for filling sprayer etc as well.

    We have a fixed electric 3 phase powerwasher hooked up to it as well with a reel in parlour. Handy to just push a button and go and no fear of washer being taken elsewhere then. If parlour is close to sheds for the price of a few lengths of pipe you could prob fix drop points in sheds as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,988 ✭✭✭straight


    Teagasc are saying that our cost of production at 35 cent per litre is completely unsustainable. Guess they'll be streamlining themselves so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭Grueller


    It's better than the shite they have been spewing of €150k profits



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,849 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    And that’s before they allow a wage for the idiot running the place 🙄🙄…..more bullshit figures …..no one should provide info to them for national surveys of worthless profit monitors until it is properly accounted for



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    They don't seem to want to except the reality that the way weather patterns are going re spring/summer been either a washout then followed by weeks with no rain, that their template of grazed grass sub 18 day rotation minimal meal and having the perfect 1200-1400 kgs of grass covers for cows to be going into isn't happening anymore on large swathes of farms countrywide, I'd easily say that this spring/summer so far that cop on most farms is up 5 plus cent over if we had got a normal year.....

    It doesn't seem to enter the equation, it's the farmers fault grass quality is sh**te/growth rates on the floor and only if they had followed best advice they'd be flying it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,988 ✭✭✭straight


    I agree with you there but whatever about the cost of production, the margin is definitely unsustainable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    That is what the climate change dairy exit scheme will sort ,5 dairy farmers on our road and 3 are pulling the pin .

    Milk will be in short supply before long,I can not fathom any one connected with dairying being against it ,

    Macra na feirme some shower of canisters that no one takes any notice of being one group



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,575 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    Incredible that the IFJ was singing the processor tale of woe last week about a reduction scheme. How could they write articles across several pages, including the front page, and not once mention that less supply might, just might lead to an increase in price?

    I know nothing is ever simple with supply and demand and all that, but not to mention one of the natural laws of the market is a bit like saying there's only one side to any coin.

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    From the podcast? The figure given was 35 cent a litre before own land and labour with an estimate of at least 10 cent additional for those. So more like 45 cent a litre was the figure quoted. That's a sobering figure?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,849 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    that figure don’t make good headlines tho …..even tho it’s closer to reality than the crap comming out of Tegasc in these surveys ……I have brought this up and no many others right across the country have to to them at walks and events but lip service paid to it



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Had to laugh about their suggestion of it been used as a retirement scheme to pay of the parents a lump sum and the younger generation gets the farm, talk about feathering your own nest



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    If the 200k cow cull does take place you'll see milk processors in the same catchments going after each others suppliers, alot of stainless steel to be paid for still and without the required volume of milk going into these plants, they'll be in serious trouble, tirlain with their new cheese plant will be worst affected, easily carrying the most debt by multiples compared to other co-ops



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,988 ✭✭✭straight


    I haven't paid much attention to the reduction scheme to be honest. But there is plenty lads out there with alot of hard road done and it would be great to see them get a break from it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,988 ✭✭✭straight


    Kerry are cute hoors. They're trying to sell up to dairygold.



  • Posts: 214 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Late 30s here and I will seriously consider this reduction scheme whatever way it works out. Farm is years behind, legacy issues. The cost of putting it right for the pleasure of working everyday for the rest of my life is no longer appealing. Was never a fan of milk quotas been removed, I believe it’s not been for the good of farming in general.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭ginger22


    Where did you hear that. Dairygold would be better than the shower we are dealing with now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,097 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    I think there's some mental gymnastics going on here thinking that a reduced milk pool will lead to higher prices. If coops have debts related to the building of processing facilities, and now they don't have the milk levels to service the debt then I can see them cutting milk prices in order to use that saving to pay down the debt, while also looking to increase prices they receive for what they produce.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,988 ✭✭✭straight


    Possibly the fact that woulfe is in there now and guys are adding 2+2 and getting 22. No smoke without fire as they say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭ginger22


    But Woulfe is retained by the CoOp not the PLC who own the processing facilities. But to be fair it wouldn't be a bad development.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 770 ✭✭✭farmertipp


    dairygold farmers wouldn't support taking over anyone. it simply wouldn't wash. it would be rewarding failure and expect dairygold to pay money to kerry? it would be mental thing to even contemplate



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