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Body and soul 2023 (initial line up announced)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,883 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Well I felt a bit silly at Wild Roots as I'd packed waterproof trousers and a good quality rain mac, maybe I'll put them to good use then. :)

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,094 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    Forecast has improved a little, with most of the rain dropping overnight rather in day time. But it will probably change again by the weekend. It does look like a lot of rain will fall though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,883 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Well that's me packed up and everything I can think of recharged, catching the Expressway in early evening down to my mates in Crusheen and we set off for the Body & Soul site tomorrow, bring it on. :)

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭RINO87


    Enjoy! Hope Thursday not too hot for ye setting up. Still holding on to the slim chance that I'll make it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭Granite Head


    Weather forecast now looking biblical for Saturday😦

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭Fanirish




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,882 ✭✭✭✭Pudsy33


    Sunday not looking great either! Wellies and ponchos, be grand



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭citycentre


    Localized little weather miracles can happen where the rain manages to miss certain areas (fingers crossed for Ballinlough and Glendalough!) but yeah, realistically its looking like a very very wet weekend nationwide. Hopefully it won't get cold with it. I can cope with being drenched as long as it's still reasonably warm! Pack the boots and the waterproofs and don't be camping at the bottom of any hills or anywhere near the portaloos!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,094 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    I've been watching it all week and the "when" keeps changing for the rainfall. But it seems like a near-certainty that a lot of rain is coming over the weekend. Saturday looks like a washout, unfortunately. Friday and Sunday nights look really bad too.

    It's such a shame as not being able to sit on the grass or walk around easily takes a good chunk out of what makes B&S a nice place to be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭CoffeeImpala


    Volumes of rain on Saturday (<5mm in 16 hours) and Sunday (<3mm in 10 hours) are very low on the met forecast for Clonmellon at the moment. It's Sunday night in the early hours of Monday that looks interesting.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭TenPicnics


    This may be a stupid question, in which case apologies, but does anyone know if the name change thing is definitely needed for giving my ticket to someone else?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 Norasheen


    They ( Body & Soul) say you have to change it, but no one has ever looked at the names on the ticket since I have been going to the festival. Scan the code and in you go!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭TenPicnics


    Thank you, precisely what I was hoping for, much appreciated!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,536 ✭✭✭endainoz


    Hard luck with the weather folks, but good wet gear can make things so much easier, can be picked up at your local farm co op, if wellies are needed, try to go for the light Dunlop ones, they're also quite cheap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 154 ✭✭Landers11


    Hopefully the weather forecast changes a couple more times by Friday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 154 ✭✭Landers11


    Looks like pretty light rain Friday and Sat but very heavy at 7pm on Sunday. Right before the pagan rave which is a nuisance. Surprised that they have the pagan rave on Sunday instead of Saturday like last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,882 ✭✭✭✭Pudsy33


    Going by the map, I think the Beacon is now in the woods themselves so hopefully there is a bit more cover



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭SoundOfSilence


    Lads is the capacity at 5k similar to last year? I thought I read it would be 10k this year but can't find anything on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    Yeah it’s 5k. They initially planned for 10k but reality met dreams



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭SoundOfSilence


    Yeah it's interesting as I can see on their site that they bumped up to 15k in 2019 but not sure how close they got to selling out that year, if it was optimistic and what the site was even like.

    They definitely haven't sold out this year and with the capacity being 5k, I would've thought they might have with its reputation.


    I hope it stays viable as it is a great festival and from what I can tell, well ran.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,094 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    Having it on the same day as Beyond the Pale is a funny decision. Plenty of people going to BTP would also have gone to B&S if they were on different weekends. The fact is, BDP has a much better line-up. I actually thought B&S lost a bit of its magic with the larger capacity, so hopefully it's back to its best this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    Yeah I think 5,000 cap suits body and soul more.

    they just couldn’t book high calibre acts to justify the 10,000-15,000 capacity in previous years. Or spent too much on one act like Nick cave and rest of line up suffer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 960 ✭✭✭dav09


    I really liked the 10k+ capacity of it in those years, I don't think they came close to filling 15k capacity any year, last year was excellent but felt half the size of previous years, maybe a middleground of 5-10k might be the sweet spot especially with BTP competing now too, as Fanirish said, it must be a very difficult one booking for those numbers, I actually think this years lineup is as good if not better as some of those bigger capacity years somehow. Very tempted to get last minute tickets, have been to the past 4 of these now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭fillup


    B&S has always been on the Solstice w/end

    BTP are the "johnny come latelys" in this scenario


    So the q should be why are BTP targeting same w/end


    To me it seems to be a Starbucks type manoeuvre, move in and drive out the competion



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    Artist availability is driving factor. weekend after with Glastonbury is also a headache so can’t really do festival then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭citycentre


    Have to disagree, I find the BTP lineup really nice but there's really not much (anything?) on it that I'd be particularly annoyed to miss. B&S has a good few that I'm properly excited about, right down the list. It's just a question of individual tastes. I'd absolutely have gone to BTP if they'd been sensible and put it on in July or stuck to their original date in early June instead of stupidly (pointedly?) going head to head with an established festival. Given how excellent B&S was last year and how poor to middling BTP was, B&S was always going to win out for me when forced to choose between the two.

    It looks like BTP's "Starbucks manoeuvre" if that's what it was has failed since B&S sales are going great by all accounts. It looks like Body & Soul is here to stay. A small, really well put together festival in a properly gorgeous location. Hopfully the other crowd will see sense and go with a different date next year...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,094 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    "Ticket sales are going great..."


    According to who? Capacity has been reduced to a similar level to when it originally launched and it still hasn't sold out one day before the festival begins.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    B&s sales are far less than half of BTP.

    also B&S technically moved a week earlier last year and this year.

    2017,2018 and 2019 were on the from 21-25th which mean next weekend



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭fillup


    I'm guessing it was moved so it happened w/end before solstice

    B&S has always been a solstice celebration at heart



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭citycentre


    Did I refer to B&S sales in comparison to BTP's? Isn't it great that BTP is doing well! B&S sales are going great in relation to their capacity. Maybe not a sell out but better than last year. Which is fantastic given that they are up against another potentially brilliant festival.

    And come on, you don't honestly think BTP weren't aware which weekend B&S was being planned for when they changed their date? I gave them the benefit of the doubt on that for a long time...

    Are you disappointed that BTP hasn't managed to put B&S out of business or something? 😂



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