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Phillip Schofield steps down from ITV after affair with "much younger male"

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  • Registered Users Posts: 39,946 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    It's a rehash of the BBC interview.



  • Registered Users Posts: 55,192 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Exactly. This is far from black and white. It’s not some random stranger you’re aware of. Folks posting here in such black and white terms in order to vilify PS; they know damn well that the situation/predicament he was in regarding his brother was far from black and white/straightforward as regards how to respond.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,761 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    If I knew a family member sexually abused anyone, regardless of age, I'd report it. I'd also have no qualms letting them know I'd do it either.

    Familial bonds are not an excuse for ignoring abuse.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,154 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    Most people wouldn’t shop in their family members, but they are quick to proclaim otherwise online.



  • Registered Users Posts: 85,900 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Phil is a father himself plus him having a relationship with a fella he knew as a child with the crimes his brother did coming out also which he knew does not paint him in a good light

    I think the fact he did so much for this Matthew chap over others in the theatre group and then sexual encounters when he was of consent (Phil said as much it wasn't a relationship just hook ups) with then knowing his brother was an abuser, as a father himself he should have reported asap as hard it might be, he enabled the brother to continue abusing, hurting others

    I assume OK cannot put him on the cover without consent



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  • Registered Users Posts: 39,946 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    I assume OK cannot put him on the cover without consent

    Why?

    The picture is from the BBC interview.

    May need permission from them if it is copyrighted.



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,946 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    So would Phil.

    In a statement issued after the verdicts last month, Phillip Schofield said he was disowning his brother. “These are despicable crimes,” he said. “As far as I am concerned, I no longer have a brother.”

    He added: “If any crime had ever been confessed to me by my brother, I would have acted immediately to protect the victim and their family.”



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,761 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    The usual nonsense from you. He didn't report his brother when he first told him about the encounter. I'd look at Phil disowning him after the guilty verdict as trying to save his own reputation.

    But you spin that however you like. 🤷‍♀️🙄🤭



  • Registered Users Posts: 85,900 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Phil knew and told the brother stop, he didn't report him, it was after the charges were filed that Phil started cooperating with the police, AFAIK, actually he should be charged as accomplice for knowing



  • Registered Users Posts: 41,054 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    I honestly think all of your surmising and opinions in this thread are really prurient, warped, disturbing and judgemental.

    You make all sorts of judgements and PS as if you and only you know everything about his life, what he went through, what his family went through.

    None of us know the exact details of what has happened in PSs life but you have judgementally decided with pretty much only your warped opinion that you know all the exact details.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Registered Users Posts: 39,946 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Report him to who?

    The morality police?

    His brother told him it was consensual and legal. Something he maintained throughout the trial.

    Hello Police? My brother is cheating on his wife?

    We will send someone straight over. Spin indeed. 🙄



  • Registered Users Posts: 85,900 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    If consensual and legal then why tell him stop which is what Phil said he did



  • Registered Users Posts: 85,900 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Phillip Schofield said "f***, stop" to his brother when told about a sex act he carried out with a teenage boy, a court has heard. In a written statement, the This Morning presenter, 60, said his sibling "made it sound like a one-off" and the celebrity told him "it must never happen again"



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,761 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Especially when Phil went on to do the same thing.

    if Philip thought it was legal (as it was in his own case as Matthew was above the age of consent) why did he tell his brother to stop?



  • Registered Users Posts: 85,900 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    "Then I saw the link with the drama school photo all those years before, and thought, 'this looks shocking'.

    Phil himself said in his interview



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,946 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Answered several times already.

    Because he was married and on the verge of killing himself over it.

    Do you think Phil gave a witness statement to the crown and incriminated himself? 😕

    His brothers whole defence was the victim was over the age of consent.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,860 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Asked and answered - you continually ignore the use of the word never

    He told him to never do it again.

    Not sort your head out after you get help. But never do it again. From one gay man to someone in conflict about their sexuality.


    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,946 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Again dealt with. Taking one word out of a witness statement is just plain silly. Or "disingenuous" as you repeatedly say yourself.

    “If any crime had ever been confessed to me by my brother, I would have acted immediately to protect the victim and their family.”



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,860 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Well he would say that wouldn't he. You'd have to be spectacularly naive to think otherwise.

    Taking one word? It's a core word of the English language which changes the meaning of a sentence.

    Never.

    You are utterly unable to explain its use. So nope, not remotely dealt with.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,946 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Jesus Títty Christ.

    The statement you are quoting was from him on behalf of the crown, do you think his lawyers would be stupid enough to let him incriminate himself?

    I know you are hoping that Phil molested someone or was in some way involved in covering up some sort of sex abuse.

    That is beyond weird and certainly not healthy.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,849 ✭✭✭Deeec


    Everyone is entitled to their opinions Annie - giving ones own opinion on PS, is that not the purpose of this thread. Are we only allowed to say nice things about PS here?



  • Registered Users Posts: 85,900 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I'm sorry if I appear stupid and thick here but "Timothy Schofield was found guilty in April of 11 sexual offences involving a child between 2016 and 2019" so am I correct in saying these were not consensual acts with a legal aged adult so Tim as in prison now is wrong and Phil knowing of even one and not straight away informing the police is also wrong, Phil was covering his own ar$e, history of lies etc., imho even during the brother's trial, I am surprised the prosecution didn't charge him with obstruction, with holding information, as he was covering up



  • Registered Users Posts: 390 ✭✭reclose


    Based on the article I read. The brother told Phil he watched porn with a 16 year old. The brother was late 40s/50s?


    Clearly it’s wrong and the article I read said nothing else happened. Assuming that’s the truth, Phil telling the brother it can never happen again, rather than turn him in.

    If it was your brother, would you really?

    I’m also assuming 16 is the age of legal consent although they watched porn and nothing else

    Morally it’s clearly wrong.



  • Registered Users Posts: 41,054 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    If you want to excuse a man in his 50s and 60s banging teenage boys he had clear advantage and power over, then go ahead. Says more more about you and your views than the poster you are trying to diminish.

    Stay Free



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭mrslancaster



    And PS wouldn't be the first to keep schtum about a pervert family member to save their career.

    The case that comes to mind is Gerry Adams when he was Sinn Fein leader and kept quiet about his younger brother Liam who abused his own daughter Aine for many years, GA never reported it to the police. He also kept quiet about his father, Gerry senior, who abused other members of the family. And he covered up the Maria Cahill abuse case also. Then, his deputy, Marylou said she knew all about the IRA kangaroo courts but there was no cover up of sexual abuse or rape by Sinn Fein. Sick creeps.

    An adult consensual affair is legal even if it is frowned on by many as morally wrong. Affairs happen all the time, people get hurt, there is fallout, but adults cope.


    Then there is the other stuff, well, thats in a whole different league and rightly sickens and shocks people. Anyone covering that up should be guilt-ridden and hang their heads in shame.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    The brother's defence was that the victim was over the age of consent, yet he was convicted and jailed.

    If PS's only 'error of judgement' was an extra-marital affair then its a very severe backlash from people who already knew. Its nothing to do with being gay IMO, thats his own business and nobody cares but it is odd that everyone has dropped or distanced themselves from him.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,861 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,154 ✭✭✭Jequ0n


    I disagree, but I can accept that we will have a different opinion on this matter.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Yes, I believe you are correct. Always the same people shielding the indefensible and ignoring, or downplaying facts.

    Stay Free



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