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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,370 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Not anything new in this really, but given our low level of engagement with everything else we have signed on to not sure how much difference it would make with our current attitudes:

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2023/0601/1386893-ireland-pesco/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,434 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    'Ireland is to consider ignoring NATO military assets in its territorial waters, airspace and EEZ as it solves a problem it cannot and does not want to address itself.'

    Fixed the auld headline for you RTÉ.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,250 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    AGS should make an offer to the PSNI for the helicopter they are going to ground if it was going cheap




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,434 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    A) We haven't got the crew for it

    B) The Chief Constable is only ball hopping so his budget doesn't get cut so hard

    C) Its embarrassing that a jurisdiction one third the size and population of the Republic has 50% more police helicopterage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 302 ✭✭mupper2


    Make of this what you will...

    "The Defence Forces have plans to acquire new ground based air defence radars and associated missile effector systems as recommended in the Defence Forces Commission report, while the upgrading of its 105mm light guns will future-proof the weapons out until 2035, he said"


    https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2023/06/01/ukraine-war-highlights-importance-of-artillery-support-against-drones-says-defence-forces-chief/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,250 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    Is the point of the 105s just for training purposes as we have never brought them overseas. We have only ever broughy our mortarsand not field guns



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,434 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Thats behind a paywall for me. I presume the bit about the 105s is completely unrelated to drone threats?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,250 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    Its just an upgrade to keep them working. The section about it is below

    The Defence Forces have plans to acquire new ground based air defence radars and associated missile effector systems as recommended in the Defence Forces Commission report, while the upgrading of its 105mm light guns will future-proof the weapons out until 2035, he said



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,370 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Fairly sure they have been used well by the Ukrainians, there have been videos of tagged 105s on social media, though what the survival rates were and whether it was just another "this is all we have so we have to use it" situations are other questions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,370 ✭✭✭sparky42


    The RTÉ discussion on Claire Byrne between John O Brennan and RBB…

    Take a guess as to who is talking utter bollocks.

    https://www.rte.ie/radio/radio1/clips/22258746/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,370 ✭✭✭sparky42


    I have to say, can't think of anytime when defence has had so much attention by Irish Media, the IT has an article on RAF Lossiemouth and the coverage it gives us, one interesting bit in it is highlight that Atlantic Aviation Group has one of the engineering contracts for the RAF A400s.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/world/uk/2023/06/03/raf-lossiemouth-the-british-military-airbase-that-protects-irish-skies/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,434 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Anything that shines the shame lamp the Government parties is no harm.

    I imagine Varadkar felt a little of it too, at the European Political Community summit in Moldova this week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,370 ✭✭✭sparky42


    At the very least I hope some awkward questions were asked, seems beyond a doubt that will be the only way anything might change.

    Speaking of which:

    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/taoiseach-and-tanaiste-stress-need-for-cooperation-on-subsea-cables-1484343.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,434 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Again, more spin on the reality that we are completely impotent.

    But yeah, awkward questions no doubt, and all in the presence of some proper ballsy leaders like Zelensky and Maia Sandu and in the afterglow of radical policy changes by Sweden and Finland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,370 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Speaking of awkward questions, here's a new article from RUSI, pretty much everything we know in terms of our limitations, and the unwillingness to change, but interestingly the author suggests sources in Dublin saying an attempt was made to engage with France in relation to an air policing agreement. The French turned us down and told us to go talk to London, but still when was this floated? Given the distance was someone suggesting the French base here?

    https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/irish-airspace-and-waters-remain-europes-open-flank



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,434 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    "Ireland, the second richest Country in the EU...."

    Ambulance for Varadkar and Martin please, they've received a burn.

    On the air policing mission suggestion, I'd say it was some idea tossed around in the back channels and Cathal Berry's name is never far from any such notions, but it was probably fairly recent and always a complete non-starter.

    An air policing mission, as I understand it, would be along the lines of what we see from the big NATO air forces basing complete air components in the Balkans and the western Black Sea.

    Undoubtedly it would be politically impossible to base RAF warplanes in the Republic and frankly I don't think any other NATO air force would get a much warmer welcome from our tankie friends, so long as our formal defence and security policy is stuck in so many shades of grey.

    Our best bet, as alluded to in the article, is to get a modern surveillance system up and running asap, including our ships and maritime patrol aircraft and begin the bi-lateral exchange of information and intelligence with our wider neighbourhood; Britain, France, Iceland, Norway, Spain, Portugal, the US and Canada. They are the nations with the assets and the networks to physically against threats and if we can support that at least, we'll be a sight better off that we are now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,370 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Not sure if thats more of a dig about our defence spending, or the inflated gdp in the first place?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,434 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Probably both. But they got their OECD 15% corporate tax rate, so they can **** off.

    In any case, even using the Irish preference for the more accurate GNI* metric rather than GDP, we are still the second highest perfomer in the EU and fifth in the World.

    The only reason that doesn't translate to second / fifth wealthiest outright, is that our national reserves are low and our debt still quite high, but by 2030, all things being equal, that position will have reversed and our national wealth per capita will be up there with Norway, Singapore, Switzerland and Luxembourg.

    Hardly much credibility in playing the poor mouth then.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,370 ✭✭✭sparky42


    To be fair, that excuse pretty much lost credibility by 2000 really, certainly at this stage its just taking the p!ss, I wouldn't have been surprised if the French response wasn't just "Non!", but also "but we can sell you all the bits you need..." TBH I think that's where his article basically falls down when hes floating some other arrangement with maybe the Nordics, everyone else in Europe is taking the threat seriously, pretty much everyone else is increasing spending by meaningful amounts and creating or recreating capabilities, us bumming along and asking everyone else to do it for us while refusing to invest any measurable amount (and even LoA2 isn't meaningful) is going to go down "poorly".

    Something again Leinster House seems to be fooling themselves about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,250 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    When it comes to the french they are not afraid to do deals to sell gear, Just look at the amount new Renault Trucks on the road, the french will find a payment soluton for anyone



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,370 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Would you blame them? Plenty of the EU nations want to sell us equipment and would love us to be able to mind ourselves a bit more, we are the ones who couldn't be bothered cause of some BS myth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,434 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Renault vehicles aren't sold by the French Government. They are imported to Ireland tariff free and sold commercially to people who like the deals Renault might offer, just like Scania or Iveco or MAN or Mercedes.

    Defence sales are a whole different ballgame and have a massive political element to them, as well as procurement rules.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,250 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    Renualt Trucks ( not owned by Reno) are heavily subsidised by the french government to keep the production lines. Renualt Ireland will offer you rates to buy the trucks at very good prices compare to scania is they are getting plenty of help from the french government. Its all about keeping the production lines going the same as Dassualt



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,250 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    Cathal Berry mentioned it last week in the committee that it was only brought in during the crash as they had large numbers applying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,250 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    The FCA started using the FN in the 90s and then the AUG in early 2000s. Why did they keep so many enfields for so long? Did they not sale a huge amount before to gun dealers in the USA



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,888 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Norway just delivered its "Advice from the Chief of Defense", it's in English.

    They also attack it by way of three Levels of Ambition.

    The chapter for the first level of ambition is incredibly short and basically says "If you try to cut funding even more, there is no military advice I can give you".

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    An interesting problem that I have to say I had not considered is that with the accession into NATO of Finland and Sweden, Norway needs to reconfigure itself a little bit to become an RSOI facility for NATO forces to land on the Nordic peninsula, then move eastwards. They also believe that only the nation mobilized as a whole (i.e. civilian and military working together) can achieve its goals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,434 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    And that's in a Country already with 19-month compulsory service and a large reserve over twice the size of the regular forces.

    Doesn't offer much hope to the likes of us!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,370 ✭✭✭sparky42


    Why in the name of god does Paul Up Paul get to be the only opposition figure that gets the airwaves on defence. The man doesn’t have a fecking clue about any area of the topic and is just a default anti West BS merchant. He adds nothing to the topic and is never challenged.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,370 ✭✭✭sparky42


    They are grey with a gun on it… What else could it be? I mean he’s not alone in making that mistake but with him I’m fairly sure it’s intentional to make it sound somehow worse than saying an OPV or corvette or frigate.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,434 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Tankie's naval knowledge just about extends to a game of Battleship.

    Not the electronic version obviously, that would be far too bourgeois.



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