Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Well, if he does lose an election, it will be a first. He's never lost an election or a referendum in his 20+ year career. A remarkable performance!!!

Russia invading Iran???? First I've heard of it,,,is it a new development? I know that the Taliban and Iran are having skirmishes on the border, but Russia???

The abuse of trust has occurred over time, it's a process. Putin stated Russian troops were not in Crimea, they were. He broke international laws and treaties by annexing the territory. He had officials forced at gunpoint to accept a referendum which was a sham (fake results). He then proxy invaded S E Ukraine whilst denying it. He stated he wouldn't invade Ukraine, then he did.

What little trust the civilized world had in him has totally evaporated. Hence he's not trustworthy in negotiations. He chiefly uses them as a stalling tactic or for domestic propaganda purposes.

For the 5th or 6th time, the Russians, as they invaded, held "talks" with the Ukrainians. Like the Russian referendums on occupied territories these were widely seen as shams. You've cherry-picked speculation from the internet which suggest the talks were reaching some sort of "deal" in April.

You are clinging to fringe views and speculation in order to paint Zelensky and the West as aggressors because that's your agenda. It's bald-faced Putin apologism.

The US or China? That's plain delusional.

Just to add to the reasons I gave for susepcting that it might be a false flag operation: it gives Putin a "justification" for attacking civilian targets in Ukraine. (Not that he seems to need any)

12 years registered on the site with 56 posts and a sudden spate of 10 posts on this thread. The first of which directly made a demonstrably false claim about Ukraine having a NATO trained and equipped army at the start of this conflict.

When confronted about this false claim you moved onto other falsehoods while blithely ignoring the fact you were called out on the first.

You were not censored, you were called out as a troll and that seems reasonable.

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Very hard to believe it is the Ukrainians.

Posts scutter....gets pulled up on it,crys like a manbaby

asking an orc to condemn these actions will lead to the same result as asking a Cork man to aknowledge Dublin as a capital.

What they actually said is they do not condone attacks on Russia and will not allow the use of American equipment. The difference is subtle but a difference there is.

The definition of condone is to give tacit approval, therefore to not condone is not to give tacit approval, they have neither approved or disapproved. Essentially they are saying they do not care as long as no American equipment is used.

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I have just rewatched the press briefing, what they said is they do not "support". Support to my mind is provide active assistance, so still the same, they really do not care.

Putin has assured us that Ukraine is a fictional country.Any attacks from within it on Russia "mainland" should only be considered as an attack of one part of Russia on another.

He has already declared "civil war" if he is to be believed.

By defending itself ,according to his lies and delusion Ukraine is actually defending Russia against a lunatic (master strategist?) Cuckoo in the Kremlin.

Probably a few people have seen this , but its an interesting take of the Moscow drone strike ,

So selected a base near moscow , so it'd be visable , the russian air-defence is right next to a motorway , so lots of pics ,

And its in the middle of a really posh suburb so any wreckage hat falls affects the ruling elites

"I would hope that it's Ukraine (well even better would be internal russian resistance) are launching the attacks on moscow, but it's most likely to be the russians themselves in some sort of conscription and keeping protests quiet push."

If I was a Russian civilian in Moscow I would be feeling demoralised,whoever it was.