Madeleine McCann

The McCanns are majorly culpable for their daughters disappearance….

if I’m a security guard on a bank, forget to lock up, don’t set the alarm and the bank is robbed overnight….. you don’t just blame the robbers….I’m majorly culpable…

if I was a parent, left children unsecured, unattended and unsupervised in a ground floor apartment in a foreign town….that was accessible to anyone…..I’m almost culpable as they are…

if they wanted nights out alone, no problem…..there are ways of achieving that…the most obvious is to book into a hotel with a reputable child minding service…

a hotel is a secure, supervised accommodation amenity… any child minding service employed or contracted will have people who have undergone an interview process as well as background checks. There would be CCTV, lots of staff looking out for guests, security etc…

For the tabloids this was an opportunity to make sales figures and sales quotas, nothing else. Whether it's the truth or not didn't matter to them, it never does in any case, as long as it makes them money, it's fine.

As for the rest, what do you expect as a parent, if you leave minors / infants or babies unsupervised, out of plain sight, and the door isn't even locked, - anybody can walk in, or an infant can walk out, to anywhere, into anybody's arms?

What do you expect if you're texting and driving? No accident at all? And then compassion, on how much your or other's life changed as a result of an accident if you're or others are confined to a wheelchair? It is as dumb as that.

Thus it's only logic, that if a stranger to the family can't be found as a culprit, the suspicion automatically falls upon the parents. It'll always be the other possibility, if the first possibility didn't happen. And legally the law won't be on the side of the parents, regardless, it was their undisputed negligence.

Fact is, there were only two parties who knew that Madeleine and the other children were alone that fateful night, and that was the parents and possibly their friends and somebody else, strangers like Brueckner or some burglar or child trafficker. The latter would have staked out the place, or had enough knowledge to either break in with whatever intention and there was no straight view from the tapas bar and the door to that room.

Apparently it was down to the Germans to rule out the McCanns and focus exclusively on Brueckner. Even more, the Germans knew Madeleine was dead, and they were looking for something specific, in one specific location around that reservoir.

Have the McCann's ever been prosecuted with regard to the events of their daughter's disappearance? If someone is suspected of criminal wrongdoing, I suggest that a case is brought against them or else keep the suspicion private. The problem is that it's all been in this grey area where that's never happened but people have taken licence to slander or berate the McCanns anyway. People just want someone to hop on. They don't care how badly they're already suffering. I would say that they've suffered enough.

The security guard loses their job and the parents lose their child. Are those not punishments enough or do they need a good old dose of demonisation to really salt the wound?

And one of those children was stolen away from them, probably never to return. They've suffered about the worst outcome you could have due to leaving their children alone. However you want to phrase it as a mistake or negligence or even a crime on their part, they're more than square in how they've paid for it, so there's not much more to really be said about the case other than the person who actually took the child is hopefully found (if still alive) and made to pay for that action.

It was negligent, an error of judgment, they are culpable.. it’s not how I ‘want’ to phrase it, it’s how it is.

They are not being demonised, any discussion on this topic must I believe include’ facts’… facts are being discussed.

I worked with an upper class English chap before. He said he done it every year. It must be a thing they do.

And the McCanns have more than paid the price in the loss of their daughter. That's a fact. If anyone here wants to suggest some extra price they should pay on top of that, please speak up.

That's fine. But we don't need to continually here it, ok?

It's interesting how this discussion is going on. I get the impression the female posters are all into compassion and grief with the parents, and the male posters about the laws and responsibility of a parent.

As for the rest of things, in order to prove murder there must be a body. So far no body has ever been found.

I think the German police only have hints that Madeleine is dead, but no real evidence. If there was evidence they would have released that information. To date they haven't.

I am still wondering, how they are going to convict Brueckner if there isn't a body?

Apparently they are going to search for a 3rd day.

This is besides the point. It was a mistake anybody with even a lower degree of common sense would have avoided, - again blunt and undiplomatic.

Do you leave your jewelry and other valuables unlocked and out of sight in a hotel room? Or the keys in your car and papers as well?

So why would you leave your children in an unlocked room and the entrance door out of sight?

This is exactly it. Sadly some posters here don't seem to comprehend that.

You ever heard the saying "a man of your education would have noticed that"? That's what I've meant. Something down the line "don't play dumb with me, as you are smart" and "even a fool would have known that"......

And as the other poster said, suppose you left your children at home alone in an unlocked house and went to some bar or restaurant, what would happen to you?

What would give the McCanns the right to get off lightly from a legal perspective? ( Grief and compassion set a side, it's a legal question not a sobbing about loss of a child )

As harsh as it is, by leaving their children alone in an unlocked hotel room they've contributed to making this disappearance possible, and quite possibly also murder.