Transgender man wins women's 100 yd and 400 yd freestyle races.

Fair enough. I wonder about the third place

I wonder how people are so easily snared by outrage bait.

Took me 10 seconds to find that ladies comments.

That’s incongruent with the race, the organizers and participants all making comments against hate and trans exclusion

You should read past the headlines

My objection to grown men deciding they are actually women and participating in women sports is that they have an unfair physical advantage.

I get you believe that it’s ok for young children to believe they are born into the wrong sex but that’s a different argument and we’ll have to agree to differ on that

I completely get your objection, I’m sure that’s not what’s happening, but I’m not going to argue semantics about it, you have your objections, fair enough.

I do want to correct you though on what you think I believe - I don’t believe it’s ok for young children to believe they are born into the wrong sex, that’s clearly not normal and there’s definitely something wrong there. That being said, I know at the same time that my opinion doesn’t matter one iota to parents in Texas who are under investigation for trying to do their best for their children -

https://www.aclu.org/news/lgbtq-rights/texas-attempt-to-tear-parents-and-trans-youth-apart-one-year-later

I dunno if you’ve ever been on the receiving end of some idiot with their head up their own ass telling you you’re committing child abuse for not raising your children in accordance with their beliefs, or their standards, or their ideas about how your children should be raised, but y’know, I’m kinda used to the idea now - some people are just like that, and there’s a certain level of shyte I’d put up with, depending upon how far they want to push it.

I’ve never supported people who want to exclude others from enjoying the same opportunities and benefits that they do, whether it be in sports, employment, healthcare or education, because having been on the receiving end of other people’s prejudices I know how it feels, and I wouldn’t be interested in inflicting that kind of humiliation on another human being.

Renee Richards won the right to compete in women’s tennis while you were still in nappies -

https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/2016-08-16/ty-article/.premium/1977-renee-richards-wins-for-transgender-rights/0000017f-e3df-df7c-a5ff-e3fff4510000

Ahh maybe you didn’t get what I was referring to, but I was referring to rapid ash’s efforts to portray themselves as a socially conservative sort when what they’re really about is just anything that’ll stick it to the lefties culture wars crap.

On the question of whether or not the majority of people have the authority to determine the rights of a minority, I’m absolutely certain that’s not how these things work. I still stand by the inference of my previous claim that most people just don’t care about the whole culture wars crap, of which this whole issue about transgender people participating in sports is just one aspect of it. There’s a tiny minority of people who need other people to care In order to support their ideas, but that’s the same with any issue - vast majority of people just don’t care and aren’t interested.

I don’t care what you think is or isn’t an injustice, your claim was this -

Remember: nobody in the 1950s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, up until about 4-years' ago, argued that biological males should compete in women's sport. I thought this was supposed to be an obvious right? But no, we only heard about it 4-5 years' ago. That alone should ring alarm bells.

YOU only heard about it about four or five years ago. I wasn’t aware you were a woman either, but you do you, I guess 🤨

Call it what you wish, the point is that you were mistaken, and I provided irrefutable evidence to show you were mistaken. It’s understandable though that you wouldn’t be aware of it when it was before your time in another country and all the rest of it. Has women’s tennis fallen apart in the US since the 70’s as a consequence of Renee Richards right to play in women’s tennis being upheld by the New York Supreme Court?

Meh, depends on who you ask really, some people get kinda nostalgic for the hey-days of the 80’s when there were some great players in women’s tennis that were international household names. Nowadays it’s kinda difficult to name them if you’re not really, really into the sport -

https://www.bettorsinsider.com/amp/story/tennis/2020/05/27/opinion-the-williams-sisters-hid-weaknesses-in-us-womens-tennis-that-rival-the-decline-of-the-us-men