Succession [HBO] Spoilers

rtron · 22-05-2023 11:22PM

Felt like Kens speech was him realizing what he needs to do to be like his father.

Funny moment for me was Greg getting down with the lingo but at highly in appropriate times. Something about being "boxed up" when the coffin lands in 😂

castletownman · 22-05-2023 11:45PM

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'Logan is boxed up and ready for delivery'.

He's forlorn attempt at stopping Ewan from getting onto the pulpit was hilarious. 'Should I take him out by the legs?'.

As people mentioned earlier, the acting during the funeral was outstanding. Really felt for Roman as I just know I'd probably be the same in that scenario (hopefully years away still).

Was I the only expecting a sort of January 12 situation in the church with the president present? They sort of hinted at unrest in the lead up with windows being bordered up and Kendall's wife going upstate. I know they showed the protestors at the end too, but thought something massive was going to happen.

De Bhál · 22-05-2023 11:58PM

Outstanding tv.

Writers, actors, producers, music, sets, camera work, everything... outstanding

shrewdness · 23-05-2023 12:29AM

I remember thinking Kieran Culkin was great in season 3 and was a bit unfortunate when the awards came around - but man, he's stepped it up again this season. Phenomenal acting by him and he should be getting some reward for that.

Plenty of other strong performances too and just an all-round great episode. Still don't know who will end up on top. Definitely don't think it'll be Shiv as she has so often fell flat when getting a bit too confident, I just reckon she'll be caught out. Also it almost seems a bit too obvious that Ken will end up on top - though it would be the show coming full circle in a way, and this season has shown him become the ruthless "killer" Logan wanted him to be at the end of season 2. Wouldn't at all be surprised for all the siblings to be left out in the cold, and the end of it being Mattson owning it with someone else as the American CEO

Navy blue · 23-05-2023 06:23AM

Not important to the show, but is Sophie Kendall’s biological child or is it ever mentioned in the show? Rava is Jewish I think and Kendall has British heritage but Sophie appears to be South Asian. Just wondering was this ever referenced.

titan18 · 23-05-2023 07:21AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120629705#Comment_120629705

I'm leaning towards Matsson and Tom as the American CEO

Cartman78 · 23-05-2023 09:17AM

A masterpiece of an episode.

Too many highlights to mention really but the speech from James Cromwell was absolutely stunning imho

Sudden Valley · 23-05-2023 10:09AM

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I don't think Tom played Shiv, I think they both realise they are bad for each other- but can't see any alternative to being with each other. I think Tom will be new CEO even though Matsson didnt seem overally impressed with him but even then I think Tom and Shiv will get back together.

I'm guessing they wont do a timejump at end of finale as the actress who plays Shiv is still pregnant.

al87987 · 23-05-2023 11:47AM

Favourite line from Tom when congratulated on his impending fatherhood "If it wasn't such a total **** disaster, it would be a dream come true."

EltonJohn69 · 23-05-2023 12:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120630135#Comment_120630135

Listening to an interview with him and he said he was suffering from long Covid and was struggling with his memory and wasn’t sure if he was going to be able to remember his lines.

23-05-2023 08:03PM

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It was an incredible episode. I immediately thought about my own mother's funeral and the surrealism of it all. When Roman said he wanted to take Logan out of the coffin I completely related to that. Your mind sort of leaves you for a bit.

Of course their fathers abusive legacy was once again on display within them. I think Rava should have went to the funeral and that she was being hysterical but Kendall's pleading and then how the hurt turns to anger and then the reactionary move of wanting to meet family law people.

Shiv is the most morally bankrupt of the 3 but has the capacity for huge emotion. She's different to her brothers though in that she won't let herself really feel because that would be terrifying and perhaps threaten the careful identity she has constructed for herself, that of strong powerful woman able to rule the world.

I loved the scene with Caroline and Marcia. There was a lot of warmth in those women towards each other and it's a shame that Caroline can't find it for her own children.

Basq · 24-05-2023 01:05AM

This season has been full of amazing performances.. but Kieran Culkin in particular this episode was fantastic!

Too many episodes for Emmy consideration this season really.

Culkin, Strong, Snook and McFadyen all deserve Emmys for standout performances across the season tbf!

MfMan · 24-05-2023 10:48AM

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I think both children are adopted.

MfMan · 24-05-2023 10:50AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120629163#Comment_120629163

"I am the droid you seek"

'Stockholm Syndrome with a touch of China Syndrome'

'You wouldn't dare miss my father's funeral if he was alive'

Every episode throws up a few killers.

Sudden Valley · 24-05-2023 11:02AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120634508#Comment_120634508

I didnt initially get the china syndrome reference, as a nuclear meltdown reference, though I did see the film with the same name years ago.

Tom has been vicious this seasons and I'm loving it with his "you killed your father" and calling Shivs pregnancy a disaster and initially a power move on her part.

I think ultimately only Shiv and Connor will have a somewhat hopeful ending, Shiv trying to be a better mother than her own and Connor continuing his maverick politician delusion. Ken and Romans business reputation are so bad and their personal lifes are disaster zones too.

Tabnabs · 24-05-2023 11:20AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120634497#Comment_120634497

Both parents are Caucasian so it's assumed that Sophie is adopted, but no reason to assume that with Iverson.

But it was also hinted that Roman had a wife/partner and child too in the early stages and they mysteriously disappeared, never to be seen again.

Murph3000 · 24-05-2023 10:11PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120633726#Comment_120633726

Agreed, this is the best TV I have seen in a long long time, where does this TV show rank in your all time top TV shows?

tesla_newbie · 24-05-2023 11:01PM

For me it’s top three of all time but The Sopranos will always be top , I’d place Better Call Saul higher too

MICKEYG · 25-05-2023 06:41AM

I think that the West Wing is up there too. So far ahead of it's time and still holds up well.

Sadly I have never seen the Sopranos but Better Call Saul is my #1.

_Kaiser_ · 25-05-2023 07:25AM

BCS was OK, but very self-indulgent at times. The Sopranos I need to rewatch as I didn't get the hype the first time around.

For me this is up there with The Shield (best cop drama ever) and House of Cards (with the exception of the awful final season).

Anyway.... I've watched various YouTube reviews and predictions since and I've still no idea who's going to come out on top. A lot seem to think Ken will do it and bring his arc full circle but as I said above, I just can't see it. It's probably the most satisfying conclusion but it's too obvious and I can't see the writers going that way.

Penn · 25-05-2023 09:37AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120637793#Comment_120637793

I don't think there's anything wrong with obvious, so long as it's done right. I think the surprise may be what Kendall sacrifices in order to end up on top. How badly he screws over the rest of his family in order to get control, how closely he begins to become like Logan, does the cycle begin again or maybe he manages to end up on top but also break the cycle of abuse and do things a different way from Logan.

murpho999 · 25-05-2023 09:50AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120602405#Comment_120602405

Sorry but that all played out well before 9/11 and Gore conceded defeat in December 2000.

Either way point still stands that there is history of Networks calling state results early as happened in 2000 and more recently with Fox in 2020 with Arizona

murpho999 · 25-05-2023 09:55AM

That episode is a complete stand out in a season of stand out episodes.

Every episode this season has been exceptional.

Not a moment of screen time or dialogue is wasted or indulgent.

So much in this episode that I think i need to watch it again to pick up all the subtleties.

I think Matsson is going to shaft Shiv and the American CEO will be TOM but just never know.

Also fun fact. Sally-Ann, Logan's ex mistress was played by Bran Cox's actual wife Nicole Ansari-Cox. Thought that was funny.

Trigger Happy · 25-05-2023 10:17AM

Would Matsson install Greg as a puppet CEO? An American CEO for show only that ticks the boxes.

Tom would then be 'gregging' for Greg.

event · 25-05-2023 11:00AM

If Greg ends up CEO it would ruin the show tbh. Its entirely unbelievable. Tom or Ken.

Thundercats Ho · 25-05-2023 11:32AM

What about Jerry? She wasn't on the kill list, and would be only too happy to stick it to them.

25-05-2023 01:18PM

With only one episode left, I wonder will they answer all or most of the questions...Who will own Waystar in the end, what happens to Greg, what happens to Shiv...does she become a good mother? Does Roman lose it altogether? What happens to Tom? Do Frank, Karl, Hugo, Gerry stay with Kendall?

event · 25-05-2023 01:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120638946#Comment_120638946

HBO shows never answer all the questions

WheelieKing · 25-05-2023 01:28PM

Lads and lassies, ive just finished episode 3 season 1 and i'll be honest im gobsmacked at how bad this show is. I read some reviews and starting watching off a recommendation from a work friend who loves it but i just find all the characters insufferable. Is it worth my time putting more mileage into this or is this just not for me if im disliking it this much after a short time.

magic_murph · 25-05-2023 01:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120638991#Comment_120638991

Stick with it. They are all insufferable but the more you watch the reasons why become clear. If they were all nice guys the show wouldn't work.

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