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Ukraine war latest: Russia says fighting ongoing within its borders

by Asami Terajima

May 22, 2023 9:08 PM

4 min read




The Ukrainian army fires Grad shells in the direction of Bakhmut on April 28, 2023. (Photo by Diego Herrera Carcedo/Anadolu Agency via Getty Images)




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Key developments on May 22:

Attacks involving anti-Kremlin fighters reported in Russia's Belgorad Oblast

Russia announces ‘counter-terrorist operation’ in Belgorad Oblast

Ukrainian military reports small advance on Bakhmut flanks

Vyacheslav Gladkov, governor of Russia's Belgorod Oblast, announced a "counter-terrorist operation" in the region on May 22 amid reported attacks by Russian anti-government groups.

"The situation in the Grayvoron district remains tense, a sabotage and reconnaissance group entered the territory, the majority of the population left the district," Gladkov said.

Since early morning, Russian officials have reported fighting within the country's region bordering Ukraine.

Kyiv Independent article on the Belgorad fighting. It might be noted that Belgorad was part of the short lived Ukrainian People's Republic (which existed in exile until 1992) proclaimed in 1918 (I've some of its banknotes, printed in the same style as the Tsarist banknotes but with the Ukrainian national emblem). Belgorod became part of the Russian SSR with the later transfer of Crimea under Krushchev in part a sort of territorial exchange or perhaps out of some bad conscience over his role in the Holmodor. Yet there's no irredentism here, just an effort by the Ukrainian military to give it's small Russian contingent a useful role.

Watching Katie Hannon show on RTE 1 and she will talk about Ukraine soon with Clare Daly on.

Quite the day for it.

Swing by kalingrad and then up into lake Nato and swing by st Petersburg for a Joy ride

Clare on Katie Hannon show.

I had a very vivid nightmare about all this the other night, at home in garden when sister runs out, yelling about the breaking news, nuclear missile launched from Russia, and then hearing it, and seeing it in the sky over head, moving at a incredible speed west, as if it's heading towards US, and then the boom, way off on the horizon, as it if was intercepted somewhere off the west coast, and then the vision of fire and dust coming towards us as a crazy mph, running towards a car, as if that could save us, and then getting engulfed in a instant, turned to dust. It was so real.

The comments under that are pretty bleak exactly the kind of stuff I am increasingly encountering in day to day experiences. The usual guff attacking the speakers motives and using the ‘west Brit’ angle and About NATO and not a further inch east etc etc . It should be repeated at the start of any of these debates about the Russian/ Ukraine war that there is an application process to join NATO . These people can see it in real time as a daily news item for the last 12 months around the processs of Finland and Sweden joining NATO. Yet people are shouting about NATO expansion. How could that be possible ? You see two countries voluntarily applying and one of them failing in that application process and yet you still see predatory aggressive expansion? Will somebody here who truly believes NATO is an expansionist organization have the discussion here with me now and educate me on this issue. Non response will be a confirmation to me that no one here among the Russian apologists and sympathisers truly believes NATO to be expansionist .

What’s this boost flying a flag tells us what side the ‘flag flier ‘ is on. Could the idea be used to confuse the other side . We should consider this flag flying in the same way as Russian soldiers taking off the uniform of dead UKr soldiers and using them to confuse the UKr army. We can write off nothing. As a strategy no matter how weirded/ unusual it might be

The US is not stopping aid or even earning the Ukraine from carrying on this line of thinking. That is the point and the only piece of US support that matters.

The US does want to directly support it but are not going to take any action to dissuade the Ukraine from doing so in the future even though they would be able to do so.

Is that the Claire Daly re farmers will make even more money if they raise water buffalo and said that Finland were quiet happy to live alongside Russia and not being a member of NATO. She behaved as a classical ‘ hurler on the ditch’ saying all of what is wrong but suggesting nothing apart from everybody stop what they are doing. What she should be really asked is that if the UKr government gave her TOtAL FREEDOM to negotiate with Putin when would she start , what would be negotiable, what would be her red lines and how would she guarantee that UKr would never be attacked again - be it special operations, cyber attack, etc, etc. she has more than enough knowledge of UKr desires, what is currently happening on the ground, who started the war , etc, etc, etc.

That doesn't leave very much in the way of serious discussion here, does it? 😁

The second half of the full quote does not negate the first however - the US do not publically endorse Ukraine using US supplied weapons to strike at Russian territory, which is what has been argued here for several pages.

Timmy, you are another that I long ago dismissed as disingenuous. You poured scorn on the idea Wagner are up to their neck in African blood. Goodbye.

Claire Daly - will be flushed down the jacks in the next election, along with her buddy Mick.

Saying you "don't endorse something" and saying you "don't endorse something but it's not up to you" are two different statements, with blatantly different meanings, especially in politics.