Russia - threadbanned users in OP

I dont know Gatling, I have used AK 47 in my military service decades ago and recently was trained on H&K G36 and M16. I felt both would make nicer holes in orcs than AK47. G36 only problem I felt was it is overheating faster.

To be fair, the "shots in the arms" occurred during the next administration after the ball was dropped post election due to an overly narcissistic leader (and that it was a European company that had the first vaccine approval that wasn't even part of "warp speed"). A lot of the delays in Europe came down to the overly bureaucratic approval process vs. the UK and US.

In either case, this is the "cheapest" war the US has ever had to fund to completely castrate another superpower, even the biggest idiots in the GQP see that (though they might publicly say otherwise just to be contrarian, their votes say something else).

Sounds like a "good" excuse for a purge, one wonders if the war went well in Ukraine would this have ever seen the light of day

They must be desperate to hit those patriot systems if they are the only ones that can take down their hypersonic missiles.

If they took out even one it would be a victory ,even if only Pyrrhic.

We all note the desperation while you watch russia crapulate itself and watch it's best equipment fail comprehensively against NATO equipment.

What this also means (and the russian plebs haven't realised it yet) is that NATO will now have a comprehensive strategy for dealing with russian ICBM and other nuclear armed devices that they couldn't really test before Ukraine. Undoubtedly that's what has allowed NATO to supply Ukraine with the level of equipment it has and will keep on upping the ante while russia renders it's military machine completely irrelevant, that it was the corruption which Ukraine was moving away from (and precipitated the war as they lost influence) that has rendered their military so inert vs the west is poetic (this was already seen with the panic they showed when any missiles go off target near NATO allies).

China will also be taking note.

@astrofool What this also means (and the russian plebs haven't realised it yet) is that NATO will now have a comprehensive strategy for dealing with russian ICBM and other nuclear armed devices that they couldn't really test before Ukraine.

Where are you getting that idea from,as it stands there's no system currently operational that can effectively counter ICBMs,the only new tech the Ukrainans got wa the various drones and loitering munitions,

Everything else has been used for decades and across multiple conflicts

Tanks and F16s are totally different,

For instance there's only 3000 leopard tanks in Europe, Ukraine and getting 100 or so tanks from,

The Germans said that for them to send their tanks others had to agree to send theres , currently nobody is saying we will send out F16s it other's send there's,

That like placing a bet each way so come away with something,

No European countries have committed to sending F16s or F18s or typhoons or Gripens , even the Americans have said they wouldn't make a difference while at the same time telling us jets barely make the top 10 list of what the Ukrainans are actually asking for,

It's the patriot is a Cold war relic why aren't F16s which are heading to 5 decade old and alot older than patriots

I don't make the rules

You much have missed the various posts claiming the patriot was a cold war relics hence why I said /asked about F16s being Relic's being they have been flying close to 50 years in some cases .

I believe the patriots , Abrams,IFVs are modern war fighting equipment, ballistic missiles date to the 1930s/1940s nobody's calling them Relic's from antiquity

I'm not making assumptions,you took one article about one weapons test and are using that as an assumption all ICBMs can now intercepted while the general consensus is there is currently no system currently operational to stop ICBMS

No one is currently stating they are going to send F-16s to Ukraine.... yet.

But it will happen at some stage. They are setting the stage.