Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Tomorrow's numbers should reflect it.

Ukraine has to be extremely precious with US equipment. Any losses are grist to the mill of the further right Republicans.

It won't be just republicans , democrats and here in Europe people will start asking about why their taxes are funding the war while the cost of living and inflation keeps creeping up everywhere else,

Last time the US electorate voted in to power a far right republican as president he led them to being the second worst in the wold in mortality rate per head of population from Covid 19 with a current count of well over a million dead from the disease in a country where the idxxt they voted in claimed they had the bestest health care system in the world. Not sure they would be dumb enough to vote in a far right idxxt in the same way again even if Ukraine had a lot of weapons chewed up by the moskovytes or think any such considerations should concerne the Ukrainians in a war for survival of their country.

Fringe elements of other countries political systems have a very low chance of impacting them in my opinion. Where is the evidence that any country has decided or has a serious likelihood of deciding to back away from supporting Ukraine in their struggle against moskovyte terrorism?

The longer this war keeps going the more Europeans will start to ask questions, even here the majority of people don't care about ukraine or what's happening in Ukraine,the cost of living, housing, inflation,job security especially in the tourism sector especially if hotels are accomodating large numbers of international protection applicants,the health service and the Total inability to defend our own waters, skies and borders, that's what people are talking about that's whats on the news, Media, papers and radio stations,

If you look at this thread close to 100,000 replies and millions of views ,but yet an absolute minority of people contribute to the thread in this forum,

It's the same elsewhere, outside of Ukraine, what's happening in Ukraine isn't at the front of people's minds , unfortunately the slavi Ukrani tag will be replaced with something as it's not cool or relevant the longer it goes on ,

Eventually people will start saying fix everything wrong with our countries before anyone else's,

My point was not about the system in the US but the actions of the Republican party sponsored president at the time of the Covid 19 outbreak. The figures speak for themselves like the public statements from the Republican president who was on a number of occasions openly questioning expert medical advice and coming up with his own crack pot theories like could disinfectants be used to treat the disease in an infected person. He also used social media to stir up a violent mob that rioted in the USA capitol city and as well as damage to public property these riots led to a number of deaths. The fact the last right wing president of the USA is not in prison for complicity to manslaughter is a mystery to me yet people are posting on this thread that is largely about the conflict between russia and Ukraine as if fringe right wing elements in the USA are going to come out with a chance of cutting off aid to a country being attacked by terrorists because it is costing them 0.37% of their GDP. Even main stream republican party politicians have come out to say that support for Ukraine will continue for as long as it takes.

There's no doubt that Russia we're testing how they'd do against Patriot AD units. There was no other purpose of the attack.

At best they destroyed one of 8 launches in the battery. Both sides will be gathering data from the strike to make adjustments. Is this the first time America's best AD came up against Russia's best missiles?

Lol, one of the replies to that thread,

In fairness the glacial Russian advance at the minor town of bahkmut contrasts starkly to the 100 km long convoy that was stretched all the way into Kiev from the border last March and then you had much more dramatic incidents like the sinking of the Moskva the massacre of bucha the occupation of Chernobyl the blowing up of nordstream the collapse of the Kharkiv front etc etc. looking back at the history of world war 2 there were a lot of lulls and and quiet periods over the six years punctuated by dramatic incidents. War is ceratainly not full on sustained drama 24/7. Russia needs a new injection of supplies and support from outside to get back to the dramatic offensives of early last year and there is no sign of that coming right now. Likewise Ukraine is being supplied in an incredibly finely calibrated piecemeal fashion just to keep the Russians at arms length but not to deliver anything like a knockout blow or dramatic advance. It is incredibly tedious and frustrating to observe and of course people with attention span deficit have long deserted this war as an everyday news consumption. This has worked out in Russias favour from a propaganda standpoint. War fatigue is what they want . But if they are to achieve any of their goals in Ukraine they are going to have to cross that line again and return to the reprehensible actions that characterised the early days of this war. And they will find that the response will be the same again despite their propaganda. 20th century industrial scale mass brutality has no place in the 21st century and can not be obscured or partially hidden away like it was then. The Russians really have been shown to be pathetically 80 years behind the curve on that issue.

Gatling, By we I mean those of us with unwavering support for Ukraine, and we are supplying and will continue to supply Ukraine with everything they need until they win. My "we" is obviously bigger than yours.

There are a lot of people, like myself that have read practically every post in these threads since this invasion started, but seldom posting. This is a great source of information and posters like yourself do help the debate, nobody wants an echo chamber.

There is little doubt that western powers understand the importance of putting a country like Russia back in its box, support for Ukraine won't be drying up any time soon.

Hopefully a shipment of pickups, jeeps, generators, going from farmers in Ireland, UK in the next few weeks again.

Don't mind the apathy talk and spreading apathy from others. Europe is in this for the long haul. This is the deadliest conflict waged by a Russian dictator in living history.

In years at your deathbed when the full account of Russian atrocities is out and Ukraine is lauded by all as a member of Europe. Do you want to be remembered as the person that did nothing who turned "Russian" and tried to excuse themselves for it.

No this is the greatest conflict in Europe since ww2. Russia spreads apathy in Europe. Russia spreads internal ferments in Europe. Russia knows it's days are coming home to roost. Hence the ratcheting up of above.

Ye know ye're own minds. Putin wins with European apathy and spreading apathy on social forums.

My donation and others will be going there shortly.

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People may not be discussing it openly but many are aware of what is going on and concerned that Europe needs to put a stop to the expansionist plans of Putin's regime. I don't detect any great criticism of the costs associated yet.

As for participation on this thread Gatling, with respect you may have something to do with this. As you seem determined to pick a row with many other posters who differ from your current narrative, leading to thread bans for several. Other posters no doubt read these silly spats and move on.