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  • Site Banned Posts: 899 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    🤣🤣🤣🤣


    Makes me wonder why banned posters hang around threads liking posts

    🥼🚑💊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,987 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    You are correct. Wagner group members who are Russians are covered by the GC, while those who aren't, like say Syrians, are not. The GC seems to need updating to remove this inconsistency and get out clause regarding nationality.

    Still, i'm sure Ukraine could fairly ask that any of it's armed forces at risk of being prosecuted for the war crime of not accepting the surrender of a Wagner POS prisoner, should only be tried after the war crimes tribunal has heard and resolved the 70,000+ war crimes Ukraine has documented and could potentially bring before the WCT.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,987 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    A Ukrainian FPV drone takes out an Orc manpad crew stationed on the roof of a building.

    Very satisfying and nice flying.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,401 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    There is no evidence that anyone in a leadership position in the West is threatening to pull military support, or forcing them to negotiate with Russia.

    On the other hand, there isn't much evidence of a ratcheting up of military aid that would give Ukraine what it needs to end this war quickly.



  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So it begins,one step at the time,and not quite what Russians expexted




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,843 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    You missed the bit which defines "mercenary", which is kindof important.

    To be a mercenary, they cannot be a citizen of one of the parties to the conflict.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,356 ✭✭✭Field east


    If NATO have the rules to kick out a ‘non compliment’ surely it is within its powers to review its way op running its business and its decision making process. What about the majority rules rather than having 100% consensus by ALL members. It must have been a blind spot that the members had when it was drawing up its ARticles of Association. Same situation with the UN and that security council



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭BoxcarWilliam99


    Like Polish or Georgian.

    The Russians claim to have found identification from citizens of the above on various battlefields



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭paul71


    The Russians claim!


    You have missed the 40 years of murdered and imprisoned journalists in Russia. Take the hint Boxcar, the Russias are telling you lies, and you are happy to swallow the ****.

    Anyway Poles, Georgians, Americans, Irish, British Germans fighting who have legally enlisted in the Armed forces of Ukraine are entitled to the protections afforded to combatants.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,851 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Its not a "get out" clause, and there will be absolutely no support for removing it considering the prevalence of use of Private Military Contractors.

    Thankfully the Ukrainian government and armed forces seem less gung ho about encouraging mass war crimes than you do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,987 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    It is a get-out-clause. precisely because it allows Putin and others to form military groups they can pretend are not pursuing national interests while holding up their blodd covered hands up and declaring 'it wasn't me', while still being able to expect their not our military to be covered by the GC.

    You are confusing me with Prigozhin, who is the one who has ordered his mercenaries to not take any Ukrainians prisoners. Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you.

    Not to mention I just agreed with you that Russians in Wagner are covered by the GC.

    Post edited by cnocbui on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭AerLingus747


    it's how the American's wiped out 200+ Russian's in Syria and the Russian's could do jackshit..

    Members of the Ukrainian legion are Ukrainian military members, and covered under Geneva Convention. Much like the French Foreign Legion or the Ghurkas in the British Army...

    However, the Russian's being their usual butthurt selves have been swaying back and forth as to whether they recognise the Ukrainian legion are mercenaries or not...

    Wagner are mercenaries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,987 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Yes; duly noted and memory banks updated accordingly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    This in response to Ukraine's clever tactic of mining each building they retreat from.

    Now the Russians taking no chances and dropping 1.5ton bombs on the buildings instead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    The bridgehead in the Dnieper estuary near Kherson is almost totally useless. The Russian defensive line doesn't start until the opposite river bank, the bridgehead reported is on a marshy island which the only supply line is again via boats across the river.

    Its also not the first time this has happened either - last year a group of 10 or so soldiers went out to one of those villages, placed a flag, got shelled, went home. A propaganda exercise but nothing more.



  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So, Ukraine have had no impact as to why Russia has no air superiority/supremacy... even though Russia having a very capable air force. While China have been preparing for the attack on Taiwan... Taiwan have hardly been twiddling their thumbs. So, as much as China will be better prepared than Russia, Taiwan will be better prepared than Ukraine... with ballistic bells on.

    But, let's imagine China sinks USS Gerald R. Ford - that would make 9/11 look like a Mardi Gras celebration. You're into Russian level sanctions against China by the West and full scale (hopefully pre nuclear war) against China by NATO, Japan and Australia. Do you think this is news to Xi? Of course he'll have the mighty Russia to help him *crickets* - The best proof that China wont attack Taiwan is that they've not done it already.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭AerLingus747


    makes a bit more sense than you think...

    If they can fire control of that area, you are not focused on a single bridge point to cross the river.... the marshy land in between can be bridged with commercial pontoons, similar to what the ESB etc.. use for moving heavy equipment across bogland... giving you flexibility of multiple crossing points, which is harder to defend against.

    edit: called bogmats.... used extensively in heavy industry... military have fast deployable versions...



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  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There is one key difference (amazing how you can see things from a Russian perspective, but not Ukrainian) this is the start of an anticipated offensive, so they HAD to do this first as, afaik, Ukraine has not developed teleportation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    If their anticipated offensive consists of bridgeheads in a marsh with no vehicle support then they are screwed. They will be shot to sh*t by artillery while being limited by the terrain slowing their advance, and having a river to their backs impeding both retreat and supply.

    attacking Kherson spit, or the upper Dnieper section between ZNPP and Nova kakhovka - that all has merit and would not be a turkey shoot for the opposition. Landing in the marshy middle achieves nothing other than twitter points for claiming territory (that had no garrison in the first place)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,986 ✭✭✭✭josip


    How effective is artillery against marshy terrain? Does it all have to be airburst or do timed fuses have any role?



  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's a landing point and if Russians fire artillery near there then that artillery will be in range of far more accurate Ukrainian artillery. My money would be on Ukrainian artillery. This region is at the end of a notoriously poor Russian supply line.

    Oh, and what makes you hope it will only consist of such bridgeheads? I think you'll be disappointed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭zv2


    Could they not find a more obvious place to set up their kit? lol

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭charlie_says


    "We need to wait till the ground hardens!" ---> "omg sooo based they invaded the wetland marsh islands"

    Simple basic canalizing tacticts vs the media led toddler level analysis once again.

    Can imagine that every single road is heavily mined in those areas and all pre registered by artillery, in an area with little to no cover. When this story melts away it'll be because they got slaughtered by the actions of their insane commanders. I bet it'll be mostly those green band troops too.


    I'm currently enjoying watching the pro Ukranian western msm agreeing with my points from last year that Ukraine likely will have to go to negotiated settlement, after a year of useless killing and destruction of their country. Didn't have to be the way of course, negotiations now!

    The "one final push but it won't work" narrative is something to behold.


    edit: also daily reminder Ukraine essentially lost the war with the two stalled offensives that gained them little but a bit of unimportant territory at the cost of massive casualties



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭BoxcarWilliam99


    First paragraph says the Russians are lying

    Second paragraph not only agrees but adds many more different nationalities

    I'm not sure how to respond!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,209 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Sure, and thats' what we are seeing now in Ukraine, but they will wean themselves away from corruption over time. Starting the process was the important step. Once a strong rule of law becomes established, corrupt practices find it harder and harder to survive. Bear in mind, even in the most tightly regulated societies' you will find corruption.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,988 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    I noticed all assaults on Vuhledar have stopped and instead they're trying to level it with glide bombs. It's sad Ukraine can't effectively target Russian planes with 45km of the frontline who fly high to drop these bombs. Or even their airfields in Crimea.

    I'm on the verge of a site ban. Please don't rage bait me, I'm easily triggered especially late at night!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭zv2


    A village on the Baikal Plateau suffers a massive fire - a furniture factory and 8 houses are burned
    
    The fire in the village of Balyaga started at the Rassvet furniture factory, but then spread to houses due to strong winds.
    
    According to Russian media reports, the fire could spread further due to strong winds.
    
    https://twitter.com/OjefChJLrbqC7cu/status/1650788806600302592?s=20
    


    It looks like history is starting up again.



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