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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,634 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    2 more weeks

    The US have been getting TSMC to set up fabs in the US instead to mitigate the risk of China acquiring or destroying Taiwanese semiconductor assets.

    That on top of recent hugely reduced demand for semiconductors means that the reliance on Taiwan is slowly decreasing.

    And the US still supports the 'one-China' policy, whereby Taiwan is officially a part of China.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    More evidence of the change of tactics from the Russians ,

    Seems they are now supplying forces with clothing and blankets which hide IR and Thermal signatures , reduced IR uniforms /tactical gear can be bought on line relatively easy but the issuing blanket's which hide IR signature's and Thermal signatures makes it extremely difficult even for drones to spot.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,744 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    I wonder is there a one shot action that would stop Putin? Some weak point in Russia?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    On Taiwan how's many nato or eu countries have diplomatic relations for the most part very few do have any kind of diplomatic or military relationships due to China completely isolating Taiwan from the the rest of the world,,

    It's already been predicted if China goes to retake Taiwan by force the US would lose the majority of it's surface vessels and hundreds of aircraft in the first week alone ,

    Don't won't go down with the US public or government



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,489 ✭✭✭zv2


    A surface drone of the Armed Forces of Ukraine attacked a Russian ship in the bay of Sevastopol at night.


    It looks like history is starting up again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    If nobody saw it ,

    Then it didn't happen Chinese proverb...








  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    It will be interesting to see what they hit ,

    Looks similar to the last video from a couple of weeks back,big flash with no secondary explosion/s and fire



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,566 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    While I'm sure Ukrainian arms production certainly isn't matching it's historic output (the 4th largest arms exporter in the world back in 2012 according to Wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_industry_of_Ukraine) and it's currently using more materiel than it could possibly manufacture domestically in such a scenario where the upcoming counter-offensive fails to liberate as much of the occupied territory as we'd like to see, it's a fair assumption that it will at the very least further degrade Russia's forces and equipment on the ground.

    With sanctions in place we're already seeing stories of Russian arms production floundering due to lack of such basic components as precision ball bearings and that's before we even get onto more advanced stuff like optics and microchips. Add in the brain drain they're been experiencing for years, the furthering of this through feeding the meat grinder that Ukraine has been for them to date and the further incentive for young men to try and flee the country before they get conscripted is it really that far fetched to think that the Ukrainian arms industry, who aren't under such sanctions and who don't seem to be as likely to conscript their engineering talent from the defence industry into the rank and file couldn't out-produce the Russians?

    Support for Ukraine from the Baltics is far less likely to waver than that from the rest of Europe or the US either so I really can't see a scenario where Ukraine find themselves unable to continue fighting due to lack of ammo. I'm not suggesting they'd be able to maintain their current rates of fire but it seems unlikely that Russia would be able to do so either?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    @Sleepy While I'm sure Ukrainian arms production certainly isn't matching it's historic output (the 4th largest arms exporter in the world back in 2012 according to Wiki,


    Not true as far as I can remember they haven't even been the the top 10 arms exporters in the last 5 decades,

    While Ukrainian production of shells has increased somewhat they are solely reliant on outside assistance to produce the majority of their shells, but as I have said previously the eu /nato states do not have unlimited supplies of ammunition and weapons/vehicles,alot of Ukrainan units are croud funding for the basics from vehicles down to basic first aid kits ,

    There's supply bottlenecks if Ukrainian military units are heavily reliant on donations because the supplies aren't coming from the Ukrainian military questions have to be asked



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Macron really looks even more stupid for his pathetic attempt to craft a reputation and legacy as a master diplomat, after his meet-up with Xi he immediately called for Europe to free itself from US influence and to let China in the door - moron. This after his repeated attempts to 'talk' Putin out of it last year when any fool could see that a well armed response was the only thing the Orcs wouldn't be deaf to. Talk about misreading the POS and the situation.

    Macron sucking up to the two biggest dictators heading the two worst anti-west regimes on the planet - genius.



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  • Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭ Willow Fat Neckerchief


    Even when TSMC's Arizona fabs come online they'll only output 600,000 wafers a year compared to 2 million a month in Taiwan itself. TSMC will still be making 88% of its chips in Taiwan by 2025. The US share by then will still be only 3% of TSMC's total output.

    Also re the US position on Taiwan, it 'acknowledges' the One China policy, not 'support'. A subtle but important difference.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,045 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Well when it comes to War Crimes. the Russians are the acknowledged experts.....still strange for them to be so concerned about the "LAW" after historically showing scant regard for it in all their activities world wide over the years, especially since Putin came to power. And as for free speech......when it comes to Russia,it just does not exist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭GerUpOttaTa


    It's no wonder China have the horn for Taiwan. The shifting in the world order would accelerate drastically if China get their filthy grubby commie hands around our necks in that part of the world. Also probably wouldn't be good for Ukraine unfortunately as focus would shift to that region.



  • Posts: 1,264 ✭✭✭ Willow Fat Neckerchief


    Yes, a thread on the whole China Taiwan business would be a good thing. It's a slow burning issue for now but I believe there's a sense of inevitability about how the situation may develop in years to come considering Taiwan's critical importance when it comes to semiconductor production. There's a thread going at the moment called "Unrest in the Socialist Paradise of the P.R.C." if you want to develop the discussion there.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    The US doesn't really support the one China policy, it just made vaguely supportive noises to get them to shut up with their yapping.

    This is what their real policy is:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,045 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yes, and there was one very good reply to that statement:

    If the Chinese ambassador in France questions the independence of former Soviet Union states, why doesn't he question the independence of Russia also? Wasn't it a former Soviet Union state?

    He has a very valid point there!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,045 ✭✭✭jmreire


    For sure, Russia are far from finished, but they are having mega problems too on nearly every front, and these problems don't have immediate solution's. They are getting worse if anything, so the clock is not working in Putin's favor either. Lots of signs that all is not well on the the Russian home front, not everyone is happy with Putin's 3 day war at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,045 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Not a genuine Journalist, reporting the truth in Russia anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Macron seems to have a firm eye fixed on his legacy and how he might be regarded as the great statesmen of his time! An arrogant so and so.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,781 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    China can only get their hands on the Taiwanese semiconductor industry if Taiwan surrenders peacefully. A full scale invasion would mean the destruction of factories -- even a small contamination of a semiconductor production line renders the factory useless until a costly cleanup is performed. But factories are nothing without highly skilled people, engineers and managers, that know how to use them. And these people will leave if Taiwan is likely to fall -- their skills are highly transferrable.

    China will never get Taiwanese semiconductor industry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,566 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    My point is that I can't see Ukraine surrendering even if they lose support from Western allies. Without the US, they'd still have friendly neighbours with a demonstrated willingness to provide what armaments they can (and host repair workshops etc.), have some capability to produce their own armaments and, crucially imo, aren't under sanctions restricting their ability to procure essential components for the manufacture of modern arms.

    Russia's ability to produce arms has been seriously degraded by those sanctions and their stockpiles have been greatly depleted by the war to date.

    Without support from Western Allies Ukraine would certainly have to fire less artillery rounds and would likely lose the ability to muster combined forces assault groups for large scale counter-offensives etc. but this is an existential war for them: a withdrawal of support from their allies is unlikely to erode their willingness to fight (and some aspects of the support already delivered i.e. training and equipment would continue to be useful in the medium term).

    It seems unlikely to me that an actual Russian Asset like Trump would take power in the US again too so while a future US president may be forced by Congress to row back on the big price ticket arms deliveries, the sharing of intelligence with the Ukrainians which despite not having a large monetary figure attached has been invaluable to them could well still continue as long as there was someone in the Whitehouse interested in seeing Russia's military capabilities further degraded (and I think that's a fair assumption of a US President, Democrat or Republican).

    The war would change and unless Ukraine could continue to mount an effective air defence they'd be in a very precarious position but from what we've seen of the "world's second army" would anyone be surprised if Ukraine continued to hold out without overt US support?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,634 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Ukraine need financial aid to the tune of billions every month just to keep the lights on. Its this support, not the military aid, that dictates whether they can keep fighting or not.

    Without financial support from western partners to keep their economy afloat they would collapse and cannot sustain any war effort either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭GerUpOttaTa


    There is no certainties in life, China has their eyes on Taiwan and i wouldn't underestimate their ability to do whatever it takes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,377 ✭✭✭paul71


    No, not anymore, unless you add the adjectives "deceased" or "imprisoned".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭BoxcarWilliam99


    Absolutely.

    There is a video of the missile hitting right beside where the women are cowering beside a fence.

    It must have been an errand missile as there was no military buildings anywhere near the area.

    Also interviews with Wagner personal who were showing off the weapons left behind by retreating Ukrainians. M16 rifles and bullets.

    They also claim to have found identification from Polish and Georgians



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭dtothebtotheh


    The “West” is already at war with China. The war in Ukraine is just the beginning, as disillusioned I am with the west, authoritarianism isn’t the answer. And if you think some Chinese fella cares about your interests, you’re seriously deluded.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,362 ✭✭✭Sigma101


    But nobody has indicated a withdrawal of financial support. In the case of the US, financial and military support go hand in hand. Nearly 40% of everything the US has committed to Ukraine is in the form of financial and humanitarian support. 

    The EU institutions are the primary giver of financial support to Ukraine (while the military support they provide is relatively small). This excludes additional bilateral supports provided by member states (incl Ireland). Financial support from the EU is not contingent on the outcome of the war nor is it related to the military commitments of NATO members. This support will continue for many years after the war ends. The EU (and the US) have committed to financing the rebuilding of Ukraine. Already there are signs that hundreds of large companies are positioning themselves for government contracts that will follow once the fighting ends.

    When considering how the military conflict might end there is a number of potential scenarios, but that scenario you paint of the West pulling the plug on financial aid and leaving Ukraine to collapse doesn't exist.



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  • Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ehhh welll ehhh but, that goes for any army. In fact, same goes for your Russian brahs. And don't give me that, 'but, I've been supporting Ukraine since Noah was a boy bit,' - I'll judge you on your recent statements, if that's alright with your lordship.

    Keep watching, Ukraine will win this fight.



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