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Unrest in the Socialist Paradise of the P.R.C.

  • 27-11-2022 10:31pm
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    Unprecedented scenes coming out of China. It seems people are really getting fed up of the regimes zero covid policy. Protesters calling for the resignation of Xi Jinping and even the end of Communist Party rule. Will the government crack down with a Tiananemen Square style response or will they adopt a more cautious approach (by their standards)?

    Considering that China has one of the most oppressive surveillance apparatuses in the world to watch over its population its interesting that protests have continued to grow regardless. One to watch in the coming days and weeks IMO.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭snotboogie

    China could be in a bit of a bind here. Covid cases are exploding in Beijing and Chongqing at the moment, two cities that have been central to the protests. If they want to keep zero Covid they will need extensive lockdowns in those cities but that would inflame a very tense situation. This week will be interesting.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,836 ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh

    Is the Chinese COVID vaccine so ineffective, that they (the authorities) fear the virus so much? Or is there something else going on?

  • Registered Users Posts: 40,289 ✭✭✭✭Gatling

    It was always a weird response to COVID-19,on one hand we would see mass public sanitizing efforts ,and on another hand they were posting the military to cities and population centers threatening anyone with death if they tried to leave,the rest of the world is moving on and opening up meanwhile china has go to extreme Lockdowns only seen in movies

  • Registered Users Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad

    The problem is they refuse to licence the more effective vaccine from american company's so there continue to be outbreaks of COVID in citys if there's a no of cases of COVID they lock down the whole city , everyone has to be tested , workers in a factory were forced to sleep in dorms with people who had COVID ,

    Meanwhile in western country's most people are triple vaxxed if there's a few cases of COVID we don't lock down the whole city even Chinese people are fed up with constant lockdowns this policy is simply not working they need to change it

    before the protests get worse

    It's hard for the government to admit zero COVID policy is not working it's not effective and its causing foreign company's like apple to look for other country's to build products

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,959 ✭✭✭joseywhales

    If only there was a readily available effective vaccine they could purchase and administer to reduce the effects of the inevitable nationwide outbreak that is obviously coming.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,289 ✭✭✭✭Gatling

    As mentioned on the bbc

    3 years of permanent Lock downs ,how long do they think going down this route is going to work financial bubble heading for a crash, wanting to invade Taiwan and trying to forcibly detain huge parts of their population and workforce is never going to end well,

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    Since the regimes grip on its own media is total thereby rendering it useless for objective news, it appears hard to find sources of independent news if you want to look beyond the mainstream media like the BBC, Sky, CNN etc. One source I found is the China Digital Times based in California. It seems ok.

  • Registered Users Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot

    Its easy to presume in Russia and moreso China it’s already game over for freedom of the people. Be mad to see a fire in an apartment being the spark that starts something. Interesting to keep an eye on this.

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx

    Only nice things happen in truly socialist states

  • Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr

    I can remember all the media commentatotors telling me the PRC was done for during the protests in 89

    Turned out the Chinese werent actually that big on revolution that time, doubt its changed as edifiying as it would be to see a bunch of Communists swinging from lamp posts.

  • Registered Users Posts: 40,289 ✭✭✭✭Gatling

    Tanks, machine guns and bayonets helped to make sure that it what started at tiananmen square ended there, followed by the complete white washing of history,

    I half expect a group of posters to appear to tell us it's the CIA stirring things and America should stay out before we get another ukraine

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    Theres a cartoonist on the Radio Free Asia website called ‘Rebel Pepper’ who frequently lampoons Xi Jinping and his buddy in North Korea. Worth following.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭thinkabouit

    What would Ireland be like if we were in Chinese citizens position?

    Come on lads, let this Covid bullshit go for heavens sake.

  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2

    The collapse of the Eastern Bloc was softened massively by some of the choices made at the time. For instance, it wasn't altogether clear that Germany would be permitted to unify. Both Thatcher and Mitterand were hostile to it. People may guffaw, but Ireland held the European Presidency at the time, and played a pretty significant role in smoothing-over opposition to allowing the East integrate into the Bundesrepublik and thus into the EC.

    Eastern Bloc countries had an obvious path to reform with European integration, which required no-little goodwill and openness from the Western European states. It's amazing to think now that there was any sort of serious opposition to EU expansion. The EU without the likes of Czech Republic or Poland is unthinkable now.

    Whatever the vicissitudes of history throws at us, we can handle it. We have the institutions, the social cohesion and the will to face it down. That's the difference between us and the calcified autocracies in Bejing, Tehran and Moscow. Losing grip on power for them could mean answering for crimes and swinging from a rope, and they go down fighting taking innocents with them.

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,987 ✭✭✭MrMusician18

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    First time personally I’ve witnessed people bravely coming out in public and calling for Xi Jinping to quit and CCP rule to end, if you believe the reports coming out. Thats unprecedented I think.

  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2

    Large crowd protesting at Liangmaqiao in central Beijing yesterday evening. For those that don't know Beijing, that's a pretty bourgeoisie part of the city, with lots of people working in good white collar jobs for blue-chip foreign and Chinese companies alike. Within the wealthiest district of the capital (Chaoyang District broadly).

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl

    Could get serious very fast they might have a large standing army and police force but china also has 1.4 billion people there is no way if it kicks off to stop it.

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