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General sheep thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    I can't really discern from the photograph..... is it the back passage or the Vagina.

    Either way it'll have to go back in or it'll turn gangrene. If it's a vaginal prolapse the harness should be fine..... the harness might work anyway if you can push it in



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭Jonnyc135


    Got the vet no prolapse, swollen up could be possible tear, injection course given no bleeding atall during the day but starting a small bit now fingers crossed she be fine - I'll be kicking myself if it's bad news



  • Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭Runswithfeet


    Have a neighbour with ten good 2/3 year old Cheviot ewes due to lamb early April.He’s very busy with work and doesn’t want to lamb them.Gave me first refusal on them as hasn’t time for Mart.

    I haven’t stood in a mart in months…..they are carrying twins to Suffolk ram…..what’s a fair price for them given current trade.I know sheep prices are back on this time last year.

    He’s a decent skin so want to make proper bid for them.

    Thanks for any replies.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,356 ✭✭✭DJ98


    Very few ewes in lamb are making over the 200 mark this year, only real exceptional ones are breaking the 200 mark



  • Registered Users Posts: 654 ✭✭✭k mac


    I would say hoggets in lamb would be making over the 200 mark, or would they...bar what's on done deal I don't think there is many for sale in the mart. I was at a mart last week and there was only 1 pen, suffolks carrying doubles mainly 2nd crop and some 3rd crop were sold subject at 190



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  • Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭Farm365


    Has anyone got some sheep fencing done by a contractor recently? Just wondering what a rough cost would be for a 100 metre straight run with one strand of barbed wire and electric over it. Supplied and erected by contractor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,616 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Tbh the trade down these parts is not good for in lamb ewes. Good young ewes with doubles at foot are making good money in general.

    The ones you are looking at would be around the 150 mark. The fact that they r in lamb to a Suffolk with potential for Suffolk cross ewe lambs helps the sale. But then again they are Cheviots and then they are Cheviots.

    Post edited by kk.man on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Horrific weather for lambing at the moment, luckily we're able to keep lambs in for a week and they seem well able for it after that. only on grass at the moment , Cobs wouldn''t be dear for the ewes in that weather.

    Weather outlook isn't great either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,665 ✭✭✭White Clover


    It's a bad time for the weather to break alright. Looks very broken as far as early next week anyway. You must have the back broke on the lambing at this stage?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Yea, over sixty lambed out of seventy five, a lot are still in , only lambing a fortnight yet .

    The neighbour that's renting my tunnel has 100 lambed in ten days, luckily he has sheds at home to bring them to after lambing



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭eire23


    Brutal alright. It's the worst in a good while, last couple of years were bad at the start and came good then for the peak of it. 34 ewes lambed since yesterday morning so it's came bad at the worst possible time. Have to let young enough ones out tomoro what ever the weather.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭Jonnyc135


    Very bad weather alright....The vendeen ram throwing massive lambs, broader shoulder than I would have thought too. He wasn't the easiest lambing and harder lambed than a charley but cannot fault the lambs up shapey with a good shoulder and sucking quick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer


    In a similar boat here,lambs not due till 17th but heading for 25% of the flock lambed already.Rain due to stop here at 9am so we will throw plastic jackets on the lambs and out the may go



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,736 ✭✭✭Bleating Lamb


    Nothing here yet which is just as well as we had biblical. levels of rain during early nights this week.

    Fields that were nice and dry a week ago have a film of water lying on them now.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭Jonnyc135


    Random question for anyone that may know the answer - Why do some Pedigree Texels have like a Black spot on their shoulder or ear



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,665 ✭✭✭White Clover


    As a matter of interest, what date did you leave the rams out?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭eire23




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Young95


    anyone trying to lamb outdoors in current weather conditions? Not starting here till end of next week so praying this **** weather is gone by then 🫣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    We use 147 days too, but our ewes started lambing at 142 days from ram turnout this year,

    Pregnancy definitely are shorter this year here



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭Jonnyc135


    All thoughts welcome - had a fine ram lamb a twin lambed on Sunday afternoon, had them in the shed for 2 days then let out too grass, he seemed abit lazy looking in the shed (got plenty beestings all the same) heed be panned out on the straw, but was well able to get up and suck when he wanted too, just not as lively as the counterpart.

    We'll he died this evening with huge belly on him and not much signs of a **** very clean end, good mule sheep may have cleaned it well but something tells me he died from constipation. Is there something I'm am missing or could it be something else



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


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    i've had them born with a blockage and soapy water put into the rectum ith the stomach tube sometime clears it but if they haven't s..t the muconium there's something blocked.

    It's veryy seldom the arse is clean if they've passed the muconium .



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭Jonnyc135


    Its a peculiar one alright, the other twin flying around the field this morning but also has an exceptionally clean back end so maybe the sheep licked them clean, but hard to know just one of those things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,665 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Have a set of twins here that were born very small on Saturday evening. I had to tube both their first feed as they were so small and light/weak. One of them is sucking the ewe away fine since but the other lad is like he's brain dead. I had to tube him 3 times to get milk into him and tried the bottle a few times but he wasn't great to take that either. I am now lying under the ewe every 3 hours with him so as to latch him on and squirt a pull of the teat into his mouth. He'll take about 10 weak sucks and stop. He's then pucking the udder but can't find or latch on to the teat. Any advice of what to try next before I have all my hair pulled out?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    hello folks , never posted here before, I keep about a dozen sheep in order to maintain the bit of land we have with our rural house , I enjoy having them a lot

    quick question if I may , I’ve quite an outbreak of lameness and I bought some formulin, I’ve protective clothing and understand it’s extremely potent so I’ll carry it out safely and properly

    question is , do I need to stand the sheep in the bath for several minutes or just allow them run through it?, I know if using bluestone you stand them in it but is it the same with formulin?

    thanks in advance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,665 ✭✭✭White Clover


    With formalin you just run them through the bath. What kind of lameness does the flock have?

    I gave up using formalin as it hardened the hooves too much and caused cracking along the nail which required pairing then. I now use zinc sulphate and find it much better. I'd say I wouldn't have 5 sheep turned in 2 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Formalin is walk through, but they have to stand iif you're using Bluestone.

    Bluestone will rot any steel it splashes on to,, even galvanise.

    Zinc sulphate is similar to bluestone but won't rot steel.

    Repeated use of formalin makes lambs feet very hard, I never use formalin



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    Do they have to stand if using zinc sulphate ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    We stand them for five minutes, our footbath holds about nine ewes or equivalent,

    The formalin makes the nails hard and they crack off if you use it too much. I have no experience of formalin but just going on what I hear.

    Our footbath is indoors and we can use the same zinc sulphate over and over again whereas with the formalin the muck can neutralise it.

    We footbath every time the sheep are in the yard which works out about every six weeks, we haven't pared a sheep in about 20 years. If you keep the four feet on the ground, as in not limping, the hoof won't over grow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,616 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Be very careful with that formulin especially in an enclosed space. Sheep will die and be replaced, humans cant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,232 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    fumes off formalin are carcinogen , so wear a good protective mask or breathing apparatus



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭Jonnyc135


    Any good ideas for getting a single lamb to suck both tits, I milked her out twice to make tit smaller so he would suck



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    He doesn't need to suck both teats, you could've done harm by milking and breaking the seal of the one he wasn't going to suck.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭Western Pomise


    Round to that time of year again!🙂

    What kind of money are people giving per tonne for a good 18 or 20% ewe and lamb nut?

    Would be buying it loose by the tonne.Collect myself.

    I forget what is ideal order %’s wise and content wise in a good nut to put milk into ewes?

    Thanks for any replies.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer


    €440 for quinns 20% supreme ewe bulk collected,grennans 20% elite ewe and lamb €500 per ton in 25kg bags collected..both are excellent nuts with plenty of soya bean meal



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,736 ✭✭✭Bleating Lamb


    Buying Smyth’s 20% nut by the tonne loose and collected……€435 a tonne….happy with them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭Jonnyc135


    Seal was already broken as he sucked the beestings from both



  • Registered Users Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Mad about baa baas


    Any one price small bags of fertiliser lately? I know it's very wet but 2 dry days this time of year would improve things..18/6/12



  • Registered Users Posts: 20 TommieG90


    Anyone ever come across a ewe lamb foaming at the mouth? Fully vaccinated and up to date with fluke,



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,953 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    penned up a ewe with a fine couple two days ago, but she wasn’t great to one of her lambs. She had one killed this morning from a puck id assume. Fair sickening



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    They can get very violent when they reject one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭joe35


    Hi all, what can you do for a lamb who is constipated. He was born yesterday and still has a very clean backend.

    He seems full but is lying out and not bothered sucking



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,665 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Some liquid paraffin. Also have you checked gently with a cotton bud that he has an opening?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭joe35


    I tried a bit of fairy and within an hour he had a dirty back end. I think I heard to that here and I chanced it.

    He's fine now, thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭joe35


    Have a few ewes in poor condition, thinking of giving them a fluke dose as I put them away to grass. What's best to go with and should i test them first.

    Only dosing the few in poor form



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,665 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Test them as it could be either liver fluke or rumen fluke. You'll know which to dose for then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭joe35


    Is it just a fec you do on them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,665 ✭✭✭White Clover




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,953 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    Was thinking of putting watered down Clik extra on the ewes soon to hopefully see them safe until searing time. Anyone do anything similar or use a different product?



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