Skoda Enyaq Sportline or Tesla MY RWD

Forerunner · 17-03-2023 10:47am #1

Hi all,

I’ve searched the forums here but wanted to ask before making a final decision.

Currently I own Skoda Kodiaq Sportline 2020 7S with 17500KM on the clock 1.5 petrol manual. I am coming the end of term of PCP and I decided to get an EV. The dealership is offering 38k for my kodiaq…I was going to buy Tesla MY but they postponed the delivery to June/Sept timeframe. government grant of 5K will be reduced from July onwards and hence I don’t want to lose that grant so I have checked Enyaq Sportline yesterday and compared to Tesla feels more comfortable and more of a family car. Neither car will accommodate 4 kids on a back row (unless multimac solution) so they draw in there. Tesla has more storage, supercharger network( I might use once or twice a year as I do manual not city driving and can charge at work), acceleration, tech etc.

I really liked the enyaq also, tech wise very close to Tesla and comfortable and more of a family car. 62Kw battery wouldn’t be a big issue.

after doing my calculations there is about 5-6k euro difference in price I.e. Tesla is cheaper than Sportline enyaq due to price cuts they have done.

I watched loads of videos, reviews etc but ended up undecided so wanted to ask you guys opinion, what would you recommend? Does Enyaq would worth the difference? (Mind that I don’t know how much government grant will be reduced so the price difference might be 3-4k in the end). Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated as the dealer told me Skoda might be increasing the prices from April and onwards (not sure if that’s correct) and they have race blue there ready to be delivered).

Enyaq PCP is 5.9% and Tesla MY is 6.4%

Thank you!

celtic_oz · 17-03-2023 11:17am

be careful of small battery enyaq I've heard stories of people not get 350KM out of an iV 80 .. no heat pump, so not sure what a bad day is for a 60 ( maybe 250! )

Forerunner · 17-03-2023 11:31am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120368949#Comment_120368949

Thank you, haven’t thought of this part!!

Gumbo · 17-03-2023 11:46am

Post up the price and spec of each car.

Forerunner · 17-03-2023 12:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120369063#Comment_120369063

Skoda Enyaq IV60 Sportline with Clever pack and clever pack plus.

Tesla Model Y RWD with metallic blue , no extras.

Gumbo · 17-03-2023 12:18pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120369134#Comment_120369134

Post the spec of each to compare.

Heated steering wheel etc

panoramic roof etc etc

You need to list out both.

Forerunner · 17-03-2023 12:29pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120369163#Comment_120369163

Model Y

12 way power adjustable front seats with driver lumbar support
Single front passenger seat
Electronic fold flat seat release 40/20/40
Expansive glass roof with ultraviolet and infrared protection
HEPA filtration system - "Bioweapon defence mode"
Center console with storage, 2 cup holders and armrest
Type 2 cable
Glovebox, lockable with illumination
Interior floor mats
Interior ambient lighting
Driver and front passenger sunvisors with illuminated vanity mirrors
Rear centre armrest with 2 cup holders
Power adjustable steering wheel
3 seat bench in 2nd row
2 fixed rear headrests
Automatic dual-zone climate control system
Front head restraints
Heated steering wheel
Map and reading lights
Heated rear seats
Heated front seats
Single motor RWD
Type 2 connector
11 kW AC onboard charger
Tesla mobile connector + domestic adapter (British 3-pin)
CCS charging connector (170Kw Max)
Power folding, auto dimming and heated wing mirrors
Rear view mirror auto dimming
3rd brake light
Automatic headlights and wipers
Auto headlights
Auto high beam
Rain sensitive windscreen wipers
LED Headlights
LED tail lights
Daytime running lights
Rear window defroster
Electric windows with one touch open
Collision warning
Active safety technologies including collision avoidance and automatic emergency braking
Emergency braking
3x3 point rear seatbelts
Electronic parking brake
Side curtain airbags
Electronic Brakeforce Distribution + Brake Assist
Driver/Front Passenger airbags
Tyre pressure monitoring system
Electronic stability control
3 point front seatbelts with pre-tensioners
Rear door child safety locks
Anti lock brake system + traction control
Music and media via bluetooth
Premium audio 14 speakers, 1 subwoofer, 2 amps and full immersive sound
4 USB C ports
DAB Digital radio
15" Touchscreen display
Power lift tailgate
Software updates over WiFi
Electric assisted front and rear doors
Emergency call service
Custom driver profiles
Speed limit recognition
Mobile App interface
Blind spot monitoring
Acoustic seat-belt warning
Bluetooth hands free phone with voice control system
Reversing camera
Speed sensitive power steering
Navigation system
Keyless driving and keyless entry
Wireless phone charging
Dashcam
Anti theft alarm

Forerunner · 17-03-2023 12:29pm

Checking Skoda one.

Forerunner · 17-03-2023 12:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120369163#Comment_120369163

Skoda one

Gumbo · 17-03-2023 12:46pm

Now you have proper comparison.

Budget will be a big factor but go drive both to see what you like in reality.

The Model Y drives better, has more performance, is more efficient and it technologically a better car IMO but many don’t like the minimalist interior or styling.

That’s where your personal opinion comes in.

Both are nice places to be.

mun1 · 17-03-2023 12:56pm

That enyaq 60 sports line is coming in at over €61k, with heat pump an extra €1160.

the MY RWD is €48k.

Forerunner · 17-03-2023 1:05pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120369287#Comment_120369287

Thanks man! With PCP it narrows tiny bit but if I wait for the delivery government grant will be reduced too :(

Forerunner · 17-03-2023 1:06pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120369260#Comment_120369260

Thanks man! I drove both but still undecided :(

Gumbo · 17-03-2023 1:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120369309#Comment_120369309

Tough choice then….

Go drive them again maybe and see if the second drive highlights anything further. Maybe ask the dealers for an extended demo over a weekend?

Forerunner · 17-03-2023 1:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120369345#Comment_120369345

Yeah, thanks for the advice, I’ll try!

mcburns07 · 17-03-2023 1:43pm

Model Y. Bioweapon defence mode is the clincher for me!

Only joking, can't go wrong with a Skoda really.

Forerunner · 17-03-2023 1:55pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120369442#Comment_120369442

Thanks man! Yeah quite happy with current Kodiaq as I had 0 issues since I bought it, EV world seems to be different!

MarkN · 17-03-2023 2:30pm

First thing I’d be doing is selling your Kodiaq yourself. I know someone who went the exact same route as you, sold the Kodiaq in 48 hours on Done Deal and went for the Y as the price difference is a factor but the natural step for them was an Enyaq.

Have you confirmed that you can get an Enyaq soon?

Forerunner · 17-03-2023 2:41pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120369602#Comment_120369602

Thanks man. Yep the dealer has the Enyaq Sportline in the showroom the blue one. Giving 38k for my Kodiaq Sportline as part exchange (most likely will sell for 41-42k themselves).

Just talked to Tesla and they said wait until the end of March as they are finalising orders so might be a hint for Q2 shipment? Not sure what to make out of it?

...Ghost... · 17-03-2023 2:50pm

If the Enyaq is available now and you are finding it hard to decide which you like more, then the Enyaq is the one to go for. That said, you won't get anywhere near the advertised range on the Enyaq as it is far less efficient. You would need to get the bigger battery to compensate if you need that range.

n.d.os · 17-03-2023 3:01pm

Both lovely cars so it really depends what you are looking for. If the APR is lower with Skoda it might be the better option. If your main objective is to buy a larger EV, you should also consider the Ioniq 5 as it is very nice. VW are doing low 3.9% apr rates this month so an ID4 might be interesting. If interior size is less important, the Polestar 2 is a smashing car with a low APR rate of 3.9% and delivery within two weeks. If you don't do long journeys buy the smaller battery in any of the above. You'll probably get the most bang for you buck with Tesla, Polestar and Hyundai. I've never driven an Enyaq but VAG generally offer less bang for your buck than the other brands. The last thing to consider is that you get get a much lower price for your current car going with Tesla. You would need to sell your car to a dealer and they will only offer you wholesale. Skoda will offer you a lot more as a trade in.

Forerunner · 17-03-2023 3:05pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120369664#Comment_120369664

Thanks man! Very helpful!

Forerunner · 17-03-2023 3:05pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120369698#Comment_120369698

Thanks so much for the detailed summary! I’ll check those you have mentioned also briefly on the web!

Gumbo · 17-03-2023 3:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120369287#Comment_120369287

Model Y RWD is €46,521.

mun1 · 17-03-2023 4:09pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120369716#Comment_120369716

I was adding in MSM from a previous order i had

Casati · 17-03-2023 7:01pm

I might be off the wall as nobody else has mentioned it, but I think the logical solution is to keep the Kodiaq. In Sportline spec its a really nice car plus you've 7 seats which with a mention of 4 kids is obviously a big deal.

Your doing 17,500 over 3 years - so less 6,000 a year - that probably about 8 fills of petrol a year or max €1000? You will save nothing on fuel and move into a less practical car going ev.

Rather than going PCP for another car you could get a loan- probably for less than the PCP rate, and have your lovely car paid off while it is still worth a lot of money.

Forerunner · 17-03-2023 7:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120370425#Comment_120370425

This is something I wasn’t even thinking of to be honest!!! You gave me loads food for thought !!!! Thanks for the input! Really appreciate it!!!

podge1979 · 17-03-2023 7:41pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120369630#Comment_120369630

Simple decision then if you have a physical car available take it especially EV. Tesla may say Q2 but I would think it'll be more than likely sept. a lot of uncertainty around deliveries.

If delivery wasn't an issue I'd go MY (but M3 would be my Tesla preference).

Forerunner · 17-03-2023 7:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120370533#Comment_120370533

Thanks so much!! I had two options kind of and thanks to previous poster now I have 3 :-)

AMKC · 17-03-2023 7:59pm

Or @Op you could wait till the new KIA EV9 is out and go for that. It will be electric and a 7 seater. It is due out next year. So in the mean time do as another poster said get a CU loan and be paying of the car you have now.

AMKC · 17-03-2023 7:59pm

Or @Op you could wait till the new KIA EV9 is out and go for that. It will be electric and a 7 seater. It is due out next year. So in the mean time do as another poster said get a CU loan and be paying of the car you have now.

Forerunner · 17-03-2023 8:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120370594#Comment_120370594

Indeed! I have watched some reviews and looks like a spaceship indeed!! I started leaning towards this way!

MightyMunster · 17-03-2023 8:19pm

No adaptive cruise control on the Skoda would be a deal breaker for me. Especially if paying 13k more for a smaller, slower, more expensive to run, less range car

ted1 · 17-03-2023 8:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120370664#Comment_120370664

Surely it has ACC, the entry level ID4 has it

MightyMunster · 17-03-2023 8:42pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120370739#Comment_120370739

Was shown as the more expensive pack above than the one included. That's what it looked like to me anyway

DaveyDave · 17-03-2023 10:16pm

Pretty sure ACC on the Skoda is part of a tech pack. The biggest flaw with the Enyaq is you need 2-3 expensive packs to get a nice spec and they get expensive. It's a bit Audi of them...

I wouldn't dream of touching a car without ACC, heated seats and steering wheel also a must.

Also I'd question if you really need a heat pump in our climate. You're probably not going to save a grand worth of electricity with it or however much they cost.

TitianGerm · 17-03-2023 10:43pm

Does the Sportsline have the upgraded DC charging speed upgrade?

n.d.os · 18-03-2023 12:16am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120370425#Comment_120370425

I've always wondered how much do people actually benefit refinancing after a PCP deal for another 2-3 years. Do they end up just jumping into another PCP in year 5-6 and wasting that time when they could have had a new car at the end is year 3. Poster does do very little milage though so you've probably picked the most sensible option. It all comes down to personal preference and circumstances and if you're willing to pay a little extra to stay in new cars.

mcburns07 · 18-03-2023 12:21am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120371572#Comment_120371572

How is it wasting time? Cars depreciate the sharpest in the first 3-4 years, if you keep paying off after 3 years at the same repayment as your pcp in the form of a bank loan then you’ll generally be building more equity in the car each month. A lot of the time after 3 years of a PCP there’s not a whole lot of equity when it comes to change so you either have to pay in money to increase your deposit or accept higher repayments. It’s definitely not a little extra to stay in a new car.

ted1 · 18-03-2023 12:33am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120371069#Comment_120371069

I got heated seats, steering wheel and acc on a 32k ID4

also got 125kw charging

n.d.os · 18-03-2023 12:34am

Generally you can hop into a similar priced car as the current car you are driving after three years for no additional deposit. I'm not saving it won't benefit you financially. It's just important to consider if you want to drive a 4-5 year old car to save a few bob. The extra spend is justified by some to get into a new car with the latest tech. Also you're getting into things like tires and maintenance by year 4.

...Ghost... · 18-03-2023 12:43am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120370550#Comment_120370550

Don't get a Model 3 if it's to be the main family car. I have one, but I got it for my commute and because Nissan effed me around with a Leaf 40 order. I love the 3, but if I was choosing between a 3 and Y around the same price, I would get the Y because its more family friendly.

As another poster said.....consider keeping what you have.

Forerunner · 18-03-2023 7:56am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120371657#Comment_120371657

Thank you. yep that’s the third option keeping the kodiaq indeed. M3 is definitely is a nice car but does not meet the needs indeed.

Forerunner · 18-03-2023 8:05am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120371637#Comment_120371637

Yeah that’s true indeed! They added extra 2k for tyre maintenance which is ridiculous that is Skoda and Tesla does not have that not sure makes a huge difference having that..

Forerunner · 18-03-2023 8:11am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120371183#Comment_120371183

I don’t think so, as far as I’m aware it’s standard charging speed, I’ll ask to him but after loads of ideas here I’m kind of leaning towards keeping the car now 🤷🏻‍♂️

Forerunner · 18-03-2023 8:13am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120371069#Comment_120371069

It comes with the pack indeed but not as standard unfortunately. Like you mentioned you keep adding the packs and your in the Audi territory or end up paying 5-6k higher than similar prices car ie Tesla.

I do agree though as one reviewer mentioned on YouTube about the heat pump, he questioned the existence in Irish weather but again he also said it’s good to have it than not having it but not a must.

joe1303l · 18-03-2023 8:18am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120371898#Comment_120371898

Skoda claim the €2K covers delivery charges and a granny charger as well as the 4 tyres and 2 services. It still offers no value especially if you haven’t specced big wheels and think you won’t need brake pads after 36months. It should be an option not a compulsory add on.

TitianGerm · 18-03-2023 8:31am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120371909#Comment_120371909

Delivery is normally €1,200 on a Skoda as far as I'm aware. That leaves €800 for two services and four tyres. Good tyres are more than €225 a corner so it's not that bad a deal overall.

What I would be arguing in this case is that the car is already on site so I would not be paying the €1,200 portion of the €2,000 charge.

joe1303l · 18-03-2023 8:41am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120371921#Comment_120371921

Not too many Enyaqs are on site already as no dealers have new stock. All pretty much built to order with long lead in times. Obviously the 4 tyres are worth close to €1000 if you’re on 20” or 21” wheels. The rest of it is nonsense.

TitianGerm · 18-03-2023 8:41am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120371934#Comment_120371934

The OP has said that the car they were offered was in the showroom.

Forerunner · 18-03-2023 8:52am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120371909#Comment_120371909

These were the figures for a new PCP, but like the other poster said might keep the Kodiaq now or wait for the EV9….head melting stuff but I’m really glad I asked here as I got loads of great input so thank you guys all 🙏🏻

Skoda Enyaq Sportline or Tesla MY RWD

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