Russia - threadbanned users in OP

I so hope it is, what a machine in fairness.

Over the last couple of weeks theres been some footage of stand alone bravery that Hollywood couldnt make up.

The guy above being one of those examples and the other footage of the guy in a trench firing at a Russian fighting vehicle with RPGs whilst using various weapons against Russian infantry running up and down a trench whilst his buddy keeps loading the various weapons for him. - Unbelievable stuff - but as some of the lads on here have rightfully said, thats the difference between someone fighting for their countries and their families existence versus a shower of inbred mongrels handed a rifle and told to invade their neighbour.

Thanks for the update by the way - Apprecaited sir.

It’s a destroyed town, they have gained more than they have given up. Russia lost irreplaceable equipment, Ukraines losses will be replaced by better equipment. As long as the west keep supplying Ukraine, Russia cannot win.

‘By providing all this aid , suffering is only prolonged’

are you talking in the context of the short term or the long term?

if in the short term- there will be a lot of suffering, numbers killed etc until the war ends

BUT if Ru win and we take a long term perspective I bet that the suffering - including killing, jailing , being beaten up, etc, etc ,etc- , of what will remain of the Ukr population would be greater for them in the long term than it would have been in the short term.

whereas if Ukr win the war there will be no continued suffering re the Ukr people.

so you’ take your pick’

It all depends on who wins the war.

You are a right s—t stirrer. I remember way back re some posters here referring Ukr living in Ukr trying to convince their Ru friends ,relatives that Ru have invaded , that people are being killed, raped, buildings being levelled, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, . The general reaction was ‘ it is the Ukr army that is doing all of this and anyway if all of this is happening it is your fault. Ru has to get of Neo -Nazis, etc, etc

so if the above is substantially true well then iD say that there is not much love lost between both sides

remember during the civil war in Ireland ‘ in a lot of cases ‘brother fought brother’. Members within families took different sides in the war knowing the outcome re people being killed on both sides

But not the the government of Ireland:

"I presume the Ceann Comhairle is not able to speak in support of the Government's motion. I will conclude by saying that this exercise today has been useful. As we approach the one-year anniversary of this war, it is important to stand with the people of Ukraine - those who are in this country and who must be missing their loved ones at home and those on the front line. We bear witness to all of the lives lost and all of the limbs torn apart on all sides in this war. Obviously, we mourn and grieve the loss of life and think of the distraught families on both sides. Those lives have been lost because of the completely unjustifiable decision to invade Ukraine. That decision deserves to be condemned."

Some people just love to be contrarians. They take all the liberties and securities of living in the EU or US but complain bitterly about both and look for conspiracy at every turn.

They would however lose their shìt if they ever had to go live in Russia or one of the other despotic shìtholes they proport to support whilst sipping a latte on their couch before heading out to collect their dole money.

I am not what you say.

Some time ago my elderly father was brutally murdered by a 27 year old eastern European migrant, but I don't want to see all of them dead, instead the experience instilled the value of life in me.

It's the same situation as in Mariopol..... make sure Russia is committed to sacrifice men and equipment .... keep em busy long enough so you can strengthen your own troops

Where Russia conquers its prepared to use its resources to further it conquests so Ukrainians have no choice kill orcs or face torture rape death.

Bakhmut or not, fighting for survival hope they succeed, slava Ukraine.

"Has anyone stopped to considerrrr, to questionnnn, to ponderrrrr, to ask themselves in a humble and caring way that benefits not only themselves but maybe the entire human race and reinforces the deep, spiritual connection which bind us all together in the experience of being an animal with the self-reflect if, I dunno, MAYBE RUSSIA HAVE A BIT OF A POINT OR SUMINK!!!"

-- Russel 'Oh, matron' Brand (probably)

Looks like the Ukrainian reinforcements have strengthened the front lines and have driven back the orc advances.

Very telling that Prigozhin who was begging the Ukrainians to leave just two days ago is now completely dejected. Could be the realisation that his forces are spent and don't have the ability to go on any longer.

Just like they were giving it up last week. And the week before that, and the week before that, etc.

Lol .....

Still complaining take off that skirt.

But no matter what you or he says

Bakhmut still holds ...

But , but,