Missing BBC Channels on Free to Air box

I lost BBC 4 recently and got it back when rescanning, its gone again so I suspect its moved again. May try a rescan at the weekend. Annoying as I have to use channel sort and export and sort the list on a computer then import it back again on the old LG TV which has no program guide.

BBC have been rejigging some channels on satellite to upgrade to HD. The latest frequencies can be found here:

What FTA boxes?

Someone with the same boxes may be able to assist or even share a channel list.

BBC are in the process of converting all their services and regions to HD. Anyone with an old SD box/tv will have to consider upgrading.

Follow this thread for details https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2056038616/new-channels/p44 as this is an evolving situation.

You won't get BBC on an sd box shortly as they are going HD across the board, so some will have to change boxes. Sky UK we're giving customers with sd boxes free HD boxes in advance of the switch to ensure continuity of service.

I’ve a Triax SR110 box for watching Uk channels etc and noticed BBC Northern Ireland 1 and 2 and a few other channels gone , even with a retune , not coming back .

i assume gone for good ? Or how can I get them back , I have bbc Scotland / bbc north west etc .

I am pretty clueless on this , do I need to start thinking of investing in a new box ?

Thank you

That box looks like it only does STANDARD DEFENITION(SD) and at the moment BBC are getting rid of all SD channels but I think the end date is feb 2024. In the meantime they are shuffling around all the channels ie changing frequencies to that all the regions will be in HIGH DEFENITION(HD). Itv will follow suit. In the meantime all you need is the new frequency, see above, and scan in.

Gerry that box is SD I don think it will scan the above or some of the above.

@swoofer Yeah I vaguely remember some of the old boxes don't offer/accept 23000 as an option.

People could try connecting the cable from the dish directly to the TV, if it has a satellite tuner.

Most of the newer boxes won't have scart, they will have HDMI or RCA ( red, white, yellow leads), you should be alright by getting the correct lead but if buying a new box make sure it has the correct connections.

I don't seem able to get BBC4 HD even after a rescan on my Borc satellite receiver.(the red button channel doesn't come back either).Does that seem normal.?

Would it be best to "delete all channels" first before a rescan?(that is an option I can see)

Thanks!

You mentioned "Scart" leads earlier in the thread , which has been obsolete for a decade or more , so the question has to be asked , what TV do you have ? What is the new box going to be connected too ?

If your TV has Scart sockets , chances are that needs replacing also.

Almost all newer TVs use HDMI

Also there are smart TVs these days for very small money that have both Terrestrial and Satellite Tuners and that can record to a USB hard drive. Maybe one of those will do and you don't need a box at all.

Not necessarily a recommendation but it is quite cheap (30 eu) and they do answer emails

My model has limited recording facility into a usb drive(just the current and following progs)

Thats the connections I have , wires coming in from outside , connected to that box , gets me the free view / UK channels , telly has all the Irish channels.

looks like I need to get an installer in to do an upgrade of wires / box , I’m not knowledgeable on it .

Got 13 years out of it , all fine , time for something new it seems .

Switch from SD to HD on satellite

The BBC is replacing its standard definition (SD) broadcasts on satellite with high definition (HD) versions.

When this is happening?

• From January 23rd 2023 to February 23rd 2023, the BBC will close your regional BBC One SD channel, and replace it with a UK-wide version of BBC One. At the same time, the BBC will launch the HD version of your local BBC One channel.
• Starting in 2024, the BBC will end all SD broadcasts on satellite.

BBC are hosting this website to help: https://www.hdsatelliteupgrade.co.uk

More info from BBC here: https://www.bbc.com/mediacentre/articles/2022/BBC-One-HD-rollout-England

I’m just outside Drogheda ,can’t pick up any of the UK channels on my Samsung tv , have aerial on roof for Irish channels and have a dish ( non sky ) on the side of the house too which works this box I have .

Not sure what I need to do / upgrade to ensure I’ve all the UK and other free channels in the future .

For the moment you can try scanning in the temporary SD settings which should get you going again until 2024. Based on the instructions from FreeTV website :-

Press MENU

Scroll down and select INSTALLATION

Enter Password '0000' is the default

Select 'TP Scan'

Type in Frequency = 12422 (it may want 12.422)

Polarity = H for Horizontal

Symbol Rate = 27500 ( or 27.500)

and Specify 'Free' Channels only

Select 'Search'

Additional channels are added to the end of the channel list.

Exit out of installation menu.

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Just one other question based on your photo. Do you watch the UK channels on more than one TV running off this box? From the look of the wiring it might also go to a second room.

Thank you Gerry , will try that .

Yes , the UK channels were feeding to a telly in the bedroom, that ain’t working now either .

OK that's what I was afraid of. It looks like it's using an RF out to feed the 2nd TV. I don't know if you even get a box with RF out anymore. At this stage I will have to defer to the expertise of others on here who may be more knowledgeable.

Thank you , yeah i have the HDMI sockets on the telly, this might sound a silly question, I have the telly mounted on the wall, if i connect a new box to the TV, it will look unsightly with wires hanging out of it with the box, can an installer set it up that its linked to my telly ,but in the corner of the room, out of the way like my current one is.

It's an old TV, but by any chance does it have a built in satellite tuner? If so and the cable from the dish will reach, you could tune in the channels directly. And take time to decide if that is a good solution, or whether to get a HD capable box.

On the RF output would that only give an aerial feed or also sat?