Random EV thoughts.....

BYD Atto 3

Depending on the pricing, that can be a big hit world wide.

The ferry is ~10mins drive from the last ESB charger (which is actually a 50kW fast charger site); but to get something with say 70km range left up there from Dublin would be an exercise in precision trip planning and probably an overnight stay somewhere. Do it as a bit of an adventure on a warm weekend with a sleeping bag just in case!

Yea, think that was it. Fine looking bus, but don't think it had the silver strip on the front but looked the better for that. I did notice the wheels looked similar to my old ID.3. I am in SE Asia presently, many cars look familiar but the names mean nothing..

I'll be keen to see their 7 seat offering, the 'Tang'. Retails in Norway & Germany at over €70k at the moment and has a 86kWh LFP battery. Rumours been going around since last year that they are looking to increase this to over 100kWh. Only concerns I would have would be around long term reliability, but they are fast becoming the biggest EV manufacturers on the planet.

BYD also reportedly planning on building a US$1.2 billion EV battery plant with up to 40GWh annual production capcity.

eGolf is a lovely car, far nicer than it's econobox replacement the ID.3. But it will cost 3 times as much for the cheapest one you'll find compared to a Leaf and @L1011 only needs very little range which would easily be covered by a Leaf or Fluence.

Maybe BMW are trying to appeal to the west and east, look at the front Herr Schmidt, see any thing familiar Toyoda San.

I don't think Toyota are going to go wallop, they can continue to make hybrids for a while yet, I would think they will increase production of phev's and EV's for sure, there brand name for reliability is not going away nor is it gambled, take the bxz4gtx or what ever its called, 10 years or more warranty on their battery, that means a lot for some people, I had a conversation the other day, it went like this

Guy buys EV 8 years warranty,

Guy sells EV 4 years later, Guy 2 buys EV and only gets 4 years of use.

I explained that a Ford has 4 years warranty, it does not mean 4 years of use, the engine does not blow up at 4 years and 1 day,

His answer was engines have been around for 100 years, sure they don't blow up.

Then he pointed out the early leafs, pretty much useless now, to which I agreed and I explained the lack of cooling and chemistry,

Range was also a factor he brought up, I explained that you can buy longer range EV's but you take a ID4 you can buy one that has 77 kwh or the lower range one, its confusing for anyone who is new to EV's.

I suggested to get a phev, you can cover your local trips and not worry about range, degradation or charging, he offered to buy mine.

I bought a hybrid 2nd hand 8 years ago, my father said to me never be the first to buy anything new, my point people are cautious and will continue to buy Toyota.

I was explaining the difference of range in the same model without any known clues to a non EV expert, obviously bigger battery more range, the question is how do you know, I do not know 24 from 30 or 40 or 64 in the leaf, I could find out alright, before it was petrol or diesel, size engine was a selling point, people made mistakes, paid for it with extra tax or insurance, but hardly a deal breaker.

WLTP is known to me and you, knock 10 to 20% off, but your assuming a person would know there is more than one battery size and it does not cover a 2nd hand seller who wants it gone, to get his model Y next month.

I cannot tell the difference in the ID4 battery size from looking at the car.

The guy I had the conversation with was also worried about range and degradation , a fact he knew about from the leaf, in his mind all batteries are like that, I could have re enforced his opinion by mentioning Tesla roadster and model S, or even the Hyundai or was it kia replacement batteries, in my mind an engine/gearbox/EV battery or anything like a critical piece of equipment being replaced does not act as a selling point, its the total opposite, I would be questioning how long the replacement lasts, its not quite the same as an airbag or wheel hub recall.

I am not, I don't care, it was a conversation I had,

I mentioned this earlier, what the worst that can happen if some one did, more tax, more in insurance, with an EV its the charging network, joy and happiness from what I read here.

My point is that people are cautious and will continue to purchase what they know, same can be said for even a hybrid, a majority of people know nothing other than petrol or diesel.

I did not know that, thanks, I would have gone into charge history to find out its capacity, if even that was possible.

I have never heard of any 2nd hand car buyer or seller going to court, sold as seen, or caveat emptor, I could be wrong,

I again say it was a conversation with one guy, not on a forum with owners experience, can any one not see that? He had his own concerns I addressed some, agreed with some.

The End.