Russia - threadbanned users in OP

There are recent OSINT reports about transiting Russian subs:

Here, fishy fishy 😈

Why would they transit a sub by surface at all ?

That was not Airforce One. AF1 is used as the designation only when carrying POTUS. Biden is still in Washington. I think the aircraft in question has a role in wartime communications which may involve POTUS.

This seems to be it.

Hold the line, grind down the enemy, meanwhile build up your forces for a serious offensive. The Stalingrad model.

It's one of the most uncomfortable truths of the whole invasion that I hate being reminded about, as it depresses the hell out of me, but it cannot be ignored or forgotten.

How stupid is this? Wagner advertising stacks of dead bodies-

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/02/16/7389675/

It's abundantly clear that a lot of people don't like anything negative being said about the US, but I'm going to say it anyway - to my eyes, it's looking more and more like the US don't want Ukraine to win outright and want them to give Putin what he wants, to keep Putin in power. Better the devil you know...?

They are possibly worried that a defeat will cause Putin to lose control and be unseated - or an attempt made to unseat him - involving a near all-out civl war between the Army, Wagner, Patriot, Kadyrovs Tik-Tokers and the FSO. Orcistan descending into a fight between warlords, all trying to grab power and likely a share of the nukes, isn't a nice scenario.

All the stuff that could be immediately useful to Ukraine and game changing has been put on the long finger or refused: No planes, no drones, a token handful of tanks 9 months or more away, GLSDBs 9 months away, ATACMS never as there aren't enough of them (yeah, right), despite them being due for retirement and replacement with PrSM soon. A significant proportion of Leopard 2s have morphed into slowly refurbished Leopard 1's.

Even the give up Bakhmut spiel fits because it lets the Orcs keep on rolling, taking more and more of Donetsk and setting things up for the conditions Putin wants for his plan B negotiated peace win.

General Miley's saying Ukraine can't win and should negotiate - where have we heard that before? But General Patreus seems to think otherwise "“And my bet is on the Ukrainians in this regard.” In any case, Russia will not win the war."

While the consistent story out of Washington is that Ukraine doesn't need planes and should instead focus on attrition warfare of more than half a century ago.

Looks like I am not the only one thinking along these lines, I just found this;

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/does-the-biden-administration-want-ukraine-to-win-or-just-not-to-lose-gop-lawmakers-want-to-know

When I'm agreeing with what Liz Cheney is saying and being critical of Biden, something's wrong. Letting the Orcs get away with ourageous agressions against other countries is what created the conditions for this horrible war. Biden has lost it, he seems incapable of learning from the lessons of history. There is no point in making decisions that let Putin win and stay in power because he's not staying in power much longer anyway, given his age and health, you are just postponing the inevitable and given the internal political scheeming and manoeuvering going on in orcistan, you might not even achieve that anyway.

The cost of that postponement, if it succeeds, will be borne by the thousands of kidnapped Ukrainian children who will never return under the Putin wins scenario and the brave Ukrainians who are going to die in large numbers, because they will keep pushing for victory, as in Bakhmut, not giving up because it fits with the US mealy-mouthed aims of prioritising stability in Orcistan.

This guy give excellent updates,definitely worth a watch.

No. I'm an 'actions speak louder than words' kind of person. Miley's quote is just one of the many signs. and emerged after I first raised my concerns about US intent two days ago in this post: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120243686/#Comment_120243686

What I am saying is being thought by Liz Cheney, it turns out, so it's not just me - in the article I quoted.

“We will continue to take every step we possibly can to help the Ukrainians succeed on the battlefield and to improve their position at the negotiating table..." national security adviser Jake Sullivan

And was this me saying this, or someone else?:

"Republican lawmakers are questioning whether the Biden administration is truly backing Ukraine’s goal to reclaim territory lost to Russia eight years ago or is hoping for a stalemate that would force Ukraine to make concessions to Russian President Vladimir Putin."

So that's Miley and Sullivan reading from the same script, but you are acusing me of basing everything on Miley's statement. It's the US's actual actions that caused me to reach the conclusion.

I said people don't like anything negative being said about the US - high five...

Hopefully all these trucks were going to be used for logistics in the war.

Something I haven't seen mentioned yet: Ukraine are actively mobilising and have been for weeks now. Additionally, they are forming what I take to be another special forces unit for which they sought volunteers and received 20,000 applications at last count.

https://ukranews.com/en/news/915339-ssu-announces-selection-of-volunteers-in-its-assault-unit

@Pa ElGrande do you actually believe that nonsense, collapse of the eu ,

Q conspiracy theories next

That's what happens when someone reads something and can't see past the quotes for what they are,

Of course Americans will keep putting out statements about negotiating,but when they are already deep into supporting ukraine, they are hardly going to be ramping up retoric against putin,

People are obsessing over the wrongthings