NI Dec 22 Assembly Election

I believe that is absolute nonsense. Everyone I have discussed this with believes SF have sunk to a new low by trying to use a serious I’ll young boy to put pressure on the DUP.

the DUP are tabling an amendment to a bill going through Westminster in the coming weeks that will allow the SoS to bring in the organ law. I wonder will sf turn up to support it or will they boycott it on a matter of principal. Kettle, pot and all that.

the only pressure coming from people who will be voting dup next time, is that they must on no circumstances renter stormont no matter what tricks are employed by others

I’m not sure there will be elections to devolved government for another generation. I do though think it’s better than 50:50 that the eu will back off their demand to rule us without representation.

this article gets some of the issues https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/nireland-unionists-face-historic-choice-eu-uk-near-protocol-deal-2023-02-10/

'I believe that is absolute nonsense. Everyone I have discussed this with believes SF have sunk to a new low by trying to use a serious I’ll young boy to put pressure on the DUP.'

Oh my.

No, you still havent explained how the court result proves you were misled about the GFA.

We can get into simantics but the Belfast agreement stated "It is hereby declared that Northern Ireland in its entirety remains part of the United Kingdom and shall not cease to be so without the consent of a majority of the people of Northern Ireland voting in a poll held for the purposes of this section in accordance with Schedule 1."

Now you may well claim that isn’t broken but the court has now told us that nothing but the final act of partition of our nation is protected. As I read the court case, the Uk government could hand over complete authority for the day to day running of NI to France and it would not break the gfa. That is not what we were told when we voted for it.

it doesn’t concern me. It is a useful clarification. Our security lies in our community refusing to accept eg France running the place.

we are entering a dangerous phase in ni. Maybe it’s my turn to say stuff like Leo said ie if the Union is seriously undermined then there is a very real possibility of violence. In the scheme of things it will not be earth shattering - when you think that the entire 30 sectarian conflict here didn’t come close in lose of life to one night in Turkish earthquakes, but it will be very sad if peoples lives are seriously impacted by the intransigence of the eu. I am still optimistic that the penny will drop and the eu will realise it can’t rule a colony without representation - at least not in the democratic western world.

Firstly 3 court rulings say your wrong. Secondly even if you were right that the constitutional position in the union has changed(it hasnt) its not the GFA that you were misled over, its Brexit and every promise thereafter from the tories. Yet as a solution to you being misled by the tories you now want direct rule from the tories....? Cognitive dissonance at its finest.

Also that last paragraph is just something else, I dont even have words to describe how bizarre it reads.

Why would they need to attend if as you say its going to be sorted? Also there's no hypocrisy here as the problem is the DUP could fix this issue but are refusing too but SF attending westminster wont have any effect on fixing the issue so wheres the hypocrisy?

TBH i think its entirely more hypocritical of the DUP to be depending on the tories and wesminster to solve this issue since as again its solely due to themselves and westminster that the NIP which they apparently have such a problem with exists in the first place.

The hypocrisy is very clear. If it became evident that they were 5 votes short in Westminster, would sf take their seats to get it through. We all know the answer to both that question and the other question as to whether sf are using this awful situation for political points scoring.

Nothing new here. This is their normal through the last 25 years. 1981 being one of the glaring examples

Because it isn't just about Daithi.

Stormont is a 'mess' because your new party alone have made it one. Stormont can fix this.

Thy is a remarkable answer. So when will the DUP have boycotted long enough for you to afford them the ‘normal’ tag for boycotting stormont

The legislation is not just about Daithi, there are many awaiting this legislation.

And it is not just SF who are supporting the recall motion. Everyone puts health above a fracas about trading/customs rules bar the DUP and TUV

SF boycotted Stormont for three years due to politics nothing more.

The real truth is that the two parties - DUP and SF - belong in the same cesspit and should be left there.

Still not enough and our community will turn on the DUP if the countenance accepting this deal (if true), but it is another few important steps in the road that Francie calls ‘flexibilities’. We jus need a few more flexibilities and we will have arrived.

well done unionist community. Keep digging in for a little longer

Shock news. Francie has changed his call from ‘the protocol will not be negotiated’ to ‘the protocol will not be gone’