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Administrative Officer (graduate) (general) 2022 civil service

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  • Registered Users Posts: 39 Sinradler


    PAS hate giving out timelines because they don't actually know, so I think they're vague on purpose. I wish they would be consistently vague though. Either of those things could be true, or neither! I'm just trying to keep plugging away and not think about it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14 odelazy


    I guess the 3 months comment could be more referring to actually getting clearance and starting the job, rather than the initial contact. Hopefully things will move a bit quicker than that but it seems like they've just started this batch so I won't be holding my breath.



  • Registered Users Posts: 491 ✭✭newbie18892


    Hi, i have my interview coming up shortly and i wanted to ask is the AO interview similar enough to the EO interview? Any major differences (apart from the presentation)?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 BigElmo


    Mostly the same. The major difference is emphasis on your knowledge/interest/understanding of current affairs and government policies.



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭mtb_sends


    Can anyone explain how the presentation stage of the interviews work (never done a presentation as part of an interview). I have an AO interview coming up which includes a presentation but you don't share your screen with the interview panel. I assumed you would, so they could see your slides etc?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 BigElmo


    You share your screen for the presentation. Some people don't do a PowerPoint and only talk - don't do this. 😁 there's info in the pre-interview booklet. You have 10 minutes to present; it will be uninterrupted but they will kindly warn you about your time remaining at 9 minutes.

    When you finish they'll ask you questions related to the competencies in the booklet. The booklet might list the specific competencies measured in the presentation and interview, but the overall score is given as one score.



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭mtb_sends


    Hi @BigElmo Thanks for the quick reply. This is what the email said which doesn't seem to line up with what you have said. "You will have up to 5 minutes to address the interview board on the presentation topic, followed by clarification with the Board for up to 5 minutes. You are not permitted to use any electronic aids (PowerPoint, etc.). or Flipcharts; nor are you allowed to share your screen"

    I would like to add that this interview is not for the AO general campaign which this thread is dedicated to. It is an AO role though so i thought this thread would still be relevant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 BigElmo


    Ah. This thread is the AO general competition.Which stream/position is this?

    Just prepare to talk for 5 minutes. Use a note pad, cue cards, or PowerPoint on your own side (privately) to help focus your speech.



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭mtb_sends


    @BigElmo It's the Revenue AO ICT competition. For a range of ICT positions in Dublin, Limerick and Castlebar I think.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12 ZXCVBNMNB


    I'm not sure if it helps anyone but a friend of mine also in the competition asked on Monday to see if there was much progress on Batch 1.

    They said they had asked the first 5 for clearance and couldn't say how long it would take to reach her number.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 17 Leyendecker


    I see 450 people were called to interview in the general AO 2021, but how many of those people were actually offered a job does anyone know? And what are the prospects for this year if only 5 people have been called for clearance by 1st Feb? 60?



  • Registered Users Posts: 17 ChV


    I think there's no point in speculating on dates, it's only good to have in mind the OOM they're at the moment.

    I guess there could suddenly be more demand coming in during certain weeks and less during others.

    What is true is that looking at the 2021 thread, it seems they were going faster. I'll forget about it for now, just wondering if they'll reach similar OOMs to 2020 and 2021 or this time they'll call fewer people from this panel. We'll see.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12 ZXCVBNMNB


    I would imagine they will still take the same number of people over the course of the year, there are still lots who will retire each year who need to be replaced. I would also imagine they wouldn't have called Batch 2 for interview so soon if they didn't anticipate demand. Hopefully departments will start requesting new AOs soon!

    In the meantime, whenever anyone hears an update to the OOM it would be great to post updates here as it will give everyone a little more foresight. I wish there was some little live countdown ⏳️



  • Registered Users Posts: 4 katecosc


    I'm around 020 on batch 1, and have filled out a skills assessment but not been called for clearance. They have been very vague with potential timelines, does anyone know where they are at at the moment?



  • Registered Users Posts: 12 ZXCVBNMNB


    At last I heard, they had called up to OOM 5 on Monday



  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭doc22


    IS the AO Graduate Development Programme still running for new recruits



  • Registered Users Posts: 7 allyben


    Hi there! I just had my interview towards the end of last week from batch 2. Anyone any idea when we're likely to hear results?



  • Registered Users Posts: 17 ChV


    In general they give results within 1-2 weeks.



  • Registered Users Posts: 288 ✭✭BhoyRayzor


    Should be, seen an email going around in July/August that DPER were looking for candidates for the 2022/2023 programme.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 17 corcaigh97


    Hey all, does anyone have an idea of up to what OOM they have called for clearance so far?



  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Bauble00


    If you email clearance, they'll give you the updated OOM



  • Registered Users Posts: 17 corcaigh97


    I know I just didn’t want to be annoying them all the time! Thank you though!



  • Registered Users Posts: 5 mcna


    Hey I emailed today, they gave an update based on my own number but they seem to have called eight for clearance so far.

    I emailed last Friday also and nothing has changed since then.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15 minersrepite


    Checked in with PAS and they’ve ceased interviewing at oom 142 for now with a third batch potentially being called for interview in late March.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4 katecosc


    Have they moved past 008 yet on the clearance for batch 1 does anyone know?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭countyireland12345


    So they have moved on from the initial 80 OOM as originally communicated on 21 Nov, to 142 OOM now? That's good progress. I'm in the 300s so from what I gather, I could feature in batch 5 or 6 hopefully.



  • Registered Users Posts: 176 ✭✭Juggler101


    I'm in the 20-30 range OOM batch 1 and have gotten called for clearance. No word of which department or unit yet



  • Registered Users Posts: 176 ✭✭Juggler101


    That is the order of merit following the interview

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  • Registered Users Posts: 17 ChV


    Last week they had called for clearance until the 8th OOM so seems it has sped up since then.

    I'm in the 30-40 range batch 1 so might get news soon. I'm curious about what kind of departments are people getting assigned.

    I applied to the Specialist AO competition just recently when it was opened and the timing is not good at all as I might be more interested in a role from that competition than this one but do you think is it still possible to accept a role in this competition and if an offer comes from the other then move to that other role even though it would be within the first two years? Not sure if anyone here could give some light on that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 39 Sinradler


    If you do an external competition through PAS you can accept another job whenever you want. Only internal and interdepartmental comps are restricted.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 17 ChV


    Thanks! It might be possible that I'd like the role from this competition, but it's good to know there's that option just in case.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Bauble00


    Has anyone started so far? It would be great to hear about what the job is like day to day, I don't know anyone who has been an AO before.



  • Registered Users Posts: 176 ✭✭Juggler101


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  • Registered Users Posts: 491 ✭✭newbie18892


    Got my interview results today and passed which i'm delighted with. My OOM is between 15-20 in Batch 2. Hoping that's high enough to get placed somewhere.

    While i am in the civil service currently, i don't know any AO's so it would be really helpful if others could offer their experience in the role?



  • Registered Users Posts: 17 ChV


    I was called for clearance.

    What is quite odd is they ask for the reference of your supervisor/HR in your current employment. I have never seen that before in the private sector and without any offer seems quite risky - who is going to ask their manager: "Hey boss, could I get your contact for a reference for a new job, I might not be quitting (or yes) but just in case". 🤪



  • Registered Users Posts: 14 odelazy


    Can you (or anyone else) indicate how far down the OOM they've reached by now?

    I'm in the 50s so keen to know how quickly things are now moving.



  • Registered Users Posts: 354 ✭✭Wonderstruck


    It's not the private sector so it's not risky. They'd only be recinding the offer if your reference says you are serial killer who calls in sick every Monday without fail cos you're hungover and your entire CV is a work of fiction.


    Also I had a q from a friend on the panel. How long is clearance taking for you guys? I think is OOM is around 80(?) Idk batch - hes not in clearance just yet.

    For the person with the day to day q it depends so much on the department, but it would be junior policy work in most places. Writing memo, answering parliamentary questions, researching stuff, maybe some data work, projects. Other AOs might have a small team reporting to them, or work on projects. I've met a lot of AOs and it really does depend on the dept.



  • Registered Users Posts: 491 ✭✭newbie18892


    Got sent a skills matching questionnaire. For people who have been placed did they actually place you in the area you picked?



  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Hopeful Outsider


    I've heard they're somewhere around late 40's, early 50's in the OOM for clearance.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14 odelazy


    Thanks!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 176 ✭✭Juggler101


    I've got a provisional offer, nowhere near my area of expertise (which is fairly niche)



  • Registered Users Posts: 491 ✭✭newbie18892


    thanks @Juggler101 i don't have a qualification in any of the areas stated and only have experience in one of the areas so i was panicking thinking i might be passed over. I don't mind being placed somewhere random as long as i get placed!



  • Registered Users Posts: 17 corcaigh97


    Congratulations! What do you mean by a provisional offer?



  • Registered Users Posts: 176 ✭✭Juggler101


    I think it's provisional until they check references



  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Bauble00


    Hey everyone, I was called for clearance but all I have been told so far is that the job would be in Dublin, no department given. Are others in the same boat? Or was everyone else given their department already.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6 Bauble00


    Also I was wondering for anyone a little further ahead has anyone been given a start date? It’d be great to know how early we’d be expected to start or how flexible they might be. Thanks in advance!



  • Registered Users Posts: 39 Sinradler


    @Bauble00 No, I’m right with you! Sent my docs in and everything, no word about vetting…feeling a bit in limbo and frustrated!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 491 ✭✭newbie18892


    Just received a qualifications check message. Replied straight away. Hoping they'll ask for clearance docs soon. I'm Batch 2, OOM between 15 - 20.



  • Registered Users Posts: 176 ✭✭Juggler101


    I think it was almost a month between those two stages for me



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4 katecosc


    I've also been called for clearance - week ago now. Very little info and no idea how long this could take... Please update here if you get to the next stage!



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