Star Trek: Picard - Amazon Prime [ POSSIBLE SPOILERS ]

McFly85 · 30-01-2023 10:10AM

The trailer seems to be at pains to portray the Enterprise-D crew as a bunch of space adrenaline junkies who shoot first and ask questions later. Everything is about how they love blowing things up and crashing into things - except Worf now, for some reason, who suggests he’s rejected violence since we’ve last seen him.

So pretty much everyone is a completely different person.

I remember how hyped I was for this at the beginning and I can’t believe how wrong they’ve gotten it.

pixelburp · 30-01-2023 10:23AM

I suppose if you only ever watched the movies, and maybe skimmed some superficial fora who liked the action'y TNG episodes you might think that's how the show rolled.

Or, you know, you were a talentless idiot who failed upwards within Hollywood for a few years, and only knew how to write scripts as a sequence of Trailer Moments.

ilovesmybrick · 30-01-2023 11:01AM

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Yup, saw the first few seconds of the trailer with the "funny" cut of the admiral (or whoever he is) saying, oh no, no pew pews, intercut with all the action scenes, and here we go again. I was surprised to see that it's out in two weeks, for weeks before Discovery launched, and Picard, I was counting down the time. Looks like it will essentially be Nemesis, except over ten episodes and with the usual universe ending disaster.

eadrom · 30-01-2023 11:04AM

Who turned out the lights?

pixelburp · 30-01-2023 11:06AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120176794#Comment_120176794

To be fair, there are only Four Lights.

ilovesmybrick · 30-01-2023 11:12AM

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Actually interesting you said that. There was a clip of Raffi using some medical thing on her eyes that reminded me of the one Lorca used in Discovery because the light in the main universe is brighter (or something) than the mirror universe. Maybe it's a giant rug pull and it turns out Picard is all in the mirror universe and it's wiped out at the end! Throw in section 31 and it removes two of my least loved parts of canon that were fine in small doses in old Trek, but became for some reason the cornerstone of these shows.

Evade · 30-01-2023 11:32AM

Hey look on the bright side, it's the last season Raffi could die.

eadrom · 30-01-2023 12:42PM

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Or.. wow, can you imagine... maybe Picard will d... Oh wait, no. They did that already 🙃

😫

McFly85 · 30-01-2023 02:24PM

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I would less surprised if the entire TNG cast bit the bullet and the ending sets up a new show called Star Trek: Raffi

pixelburp · 30-01-2023 02:29PM

The positivity I'm taking from all this, is that all the TNG cast's kids & grandkids will probably inherit a nice chunk of cheddar for this "money for old (t)rope" work.

Who'd have thought that 2009 reboot's lasting effect was to poison the entire well of Star Trek.

TheIrishGrover · 30-01-2023 02:31PM

Boy, they REALLY should have rethought that last line.....

Spiner... AGAIN! And Perry from Kevin and Perry (I know I used that joke before but come on...

I've also said it before that they do good (and misleading) trailers. But yeah. This does nothing for me

breezy1985 · 30-01-2023 02:34PM

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A woice-over.

breezy1985 · 30-01-2023 02:50PM

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The current team make good trailers. Sadly not much else.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119721504#Comment_119721504

Another Discovery style kinky, camp, panto villain.

Slydice · 30-01-2023 08:24PM

Wow, Geordi looks pissed! .. understandably given the story over the seasons.

Rawr · 30-01-2023 08:26PM

There’s still a chance that Season 3 will be watchable…but dear god that was a mess of a trailer. All…and I mean ALL of the tropes and bad habits of modern movie trailers on display here. If they wanted to press the TNG ‘memberberries they just needed a subtile hint, a tune here, and familiar face there. But no, it’s the Pew-Pew stutter-music action slock that puts me off pretty much anything it’s used with.

Brian? · 30-01-2023 09:44PM

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I hate the mirror universe ****. Despise it, no more. I hate section 31 almost as much now thanks to the complete overuse in Disco.

breezy1985 · 30-01-2023 09:52PM

I bet Moriarty is a misdirect. They love a "taadaa" reveal finale so I don't think they will give him away if he is the bad guy.

He will either be a dream or Picard will need to use him Silence of the Lambs style.

Also anytime I see him now I just think Badgey

Rawr · 30-01-2023 10:01PM

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Now I want to actually see Badgey appear in this. Him and Moriarty trying to destroy the Federation. Would love every second.

Spear · 30-01-2023 10:11PM

There's something about the trailer that seems off to me. There's just not enough variety in it to fill a series there. There seems to be enough for two episodes, the initial setup, and second episode of Bev's ship being found and the ambush. I'd like to think there's a lot more to be revealed for the remaining 8 episodes. But I've a funny feeling I had the same impression for season 2, but instead we had a lot of Chateau flashbacks and an entire episode wasted on the FBI interrogation.

breezy1985 · 30-01-2023 10:19PM

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What the fuk was the point of FBI guy. God s2 is possibly one of the worst series of anything ever.

It's like the South Park joke of plots written by manatees.

Evade · 30-01-2023 10:53PM

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Modern Star Trek taking too many hints from the Arrowverse. Big opener, tread water until, big finisher. Nothing in the middle matters.

eadrom · 30-01-2023 11:08PM

It'll be one old character introduced each week with their own key episode, showing how they've each become totally different people in the years since we saw them. That'll be spliced together with the "season arc" story of Picard struggling with his demons and chasing the darkness, or running from the darkness, or sitting in darkness, or whatever so long as it's dark, until the A and B stories converge for the week thus expanding the crew by one dear old friend at the end of each episode. The gang's all there for the final.

~Rebel~ · 31-01-2023 12:48AM

Most annoying of all is that the basic concept of a Picard show could have been really good. They just had no need to go for these massive universe ending stories - i'd have loved if it instead focused on some small local story or mystery, far beneath Starfleet, that Picard picks up on and gets involved in because he's the kind of guy who simply can't just stand by. Something a bit more 'Harry Brown' meets 'Mr Holmes'. Instead we've just got more false nostalgia (which doesn't even have the decency to reflect what TNG actually was) and splashy distracty nonsense. :-/

breezy1985 · 31-01-2023 08:02AM

So in the universe of never ending callbacks the main ship this season is the Constitution mklll class Titan - A which like every ship I believe was a winner of some obscure fan competition way back. So we are even getting "A" ships for names we never even cared about.

A few other Star Trek Online ships are to make an appearance too.

TheIrishGrover · 31-01-2023 08:54AM

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Indeed. The first couple of episodes of season 1 were very good. I especially loved a scene where he goes asking for a ship to be met with a cry of incredulity ("The sheer f*cking ARROGANCE of you"). You are right. It SHOULD have been that. Low key (But important) situations to solve. As they introduced the Romulans so heavily at the start, it could have been a great chance to make them more three-dimensional. Could have REALLY opened up the Trek universe.

Let's be brutally honest: For all the fact that they have been around since TOS, the Klingons and the Vulcans really are one-dimensional: Nobel Warrior and cold logic. Strange New Worlds helped with the Vulcans a bit. The chemistry between Spock and T'Pring was fantastic. But they are still pretty one-note.

Here you had an opportunity to really explore a "new" race. So similar to us in ways and so different in others. Just thinking as I type (So it may make NO sense/or may clash with continuity) Have Picard investigate a murder-mystery within the Romulan community. Hell, you could even have brought back Denise Crosby as a cameo if you wanted the memberberries. This could even have led to (yet another) spinoff. But one that could be interesting. A Romulan series set in the Picard timeline. It could have focused on Talinn if they wanted and had a bigger story there as she would not be burdened by such an esteemed legacy. Her investigating the machinations of the Tal Shiar (And specifically Sela if you wanted) as they try to rebuild. Heck, you could even loop in Section 31. Have them working together with Sela to rebuild them BOTH by manufacturing/creating some bigger threat - Something that soon gets out of control. (Just dial back the Irish by about 25%. No more "Cheeky feckers" please). There ya go. TWO spinoffs.

As it is, they have now lost their most engaging character (Ramos). Initially I described him as a poor-man's Han Solo but he rapidly grew on me (Including his (hopefully) intentionally terrible Hologram crew). And I especially liked him last season (The best bit in the show - along with the Baltar cameo).

Anyway...

ilovesmybrick · 31-01-2023 09:03AM

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Yeah, I'm sure that there are fans on STO that love those ships, but the arse on that ship approaching the starbase with the massive impulse drives is kind of awful. It just looks really unbalanced to me

breezy1985 · 31-01-2023 09:18AM

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Part of it looks like the back of a Star Destroyer.

I never liked the STO designs. They are for a computer game which always have wacky mods and variants which doesn't work in a show.

Also I just don't have any emotional connection to the books or games which seems to be about 90% of the Trek the current show runners are into.

I don't understand why they didn't just give 7 the Stargazer rather than trying to get the viewer invested in another random ship.

pixelburp · 31-01-2023 09:39AM

The Nu-Trek ship designs have been generally awful stuff altogether; La Sirena an absolute affront to anything resembling aesthetic design, and looked more like something bought from a Stock Library than anything produced by a production team.

Controversial as it is to say, I still hold a candle for the Discovery, precisely because it clearly had an artistic direction: maybe people don't like it, and its practicality questionable - but the Ralph McQuarrie inspired ship had an arresting look that remains unique to Trek.

breezy1985 · 31-01-2023 10:03AM

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I really liked the Shenzhou despite it being a little busy looking and season 1 had a few ok ones. S2 has crap like the Stealth ship and the s3 designs are generic rubbish.

Rawr · 31-01-2023 10:04AM

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I'm still very curious to see how NCO Crewman Seven of Nine got reactivated into Starfleet into an officer's rank that got her close enough to a Captaincy in a mere handful of years. Having Lieutenant Raffi telling people that she should be a Captian doesn't seem like enough to make that happen.

It's kind of reminding me of the time Garak was messing about with Worf about joining Starfleet Academy. Suggesting that he was so awesome that he could probably just skip the lower ranks and go right to Lieutenant. That was enough clue Worf in that Garak wasn't serious....but is that enough for the Picard writers?

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