Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?

"the vast majority of "protestors" and also of the far right scum leading the protestors are unemployed"

So not much different to a leftist alphabet soup of political parties protest then.

This solidarity with the working class from most lefties has always been a larp. Beautifully illustrated in the last few days. They couldn't be more out or touch.

Sorry but the far left are really scrapping the barrel now for excuses. Protesters are far right, they are not from the area, they've never protested before, they are unemployed. We know a few are from the far right but that does not mean everyone out there protesting now is far right. The best I saw was the other day saying you never hear the "fash" talk about the convicted rapist Larry Murphy. How many protesters for Repeal the 8th etc gathered in Dublin and other places that were not from that area? How many of those that attended the vigils for Irish women who where recently killed held vigils for non irish women killed, how many where from that area where the vigil was held. No vigil for the poor Mongolian woman who was stabbed a few years back in Dublin. There are a lot of double standards coming from the left at the moment.

Back in 2014 there were anti Roma protests here in Waterford sparked by claims of a 12 year old being groomed. Also complaints of criminality and aggressive begging. I know some of those protesters and they are not far right, those same people had a fb page set up that was listing people who committed crimes and where they were. When I spoke out about that page because it could damage any trials I was the bad person, I was on the criminals sides etc. Some of those same people are now using the race card against those that are protesting about the refugees and lack of housing. The same people will complain about Travellers but I guess it's ok to protest or complain about some people as long as they are the same as those you don't like.

Meanwhile media are camping out in front of a school to witness a non violent one-man protest.

Palatable bad white man narrative.

The vacuum left by non reporting of "inconvenient" incidents will be filled by something else.

I don't like the dehumanizing language sept 23 is using. However it raises a point.

In the USA there is not the socialized supports we have in Ireland and they are certainly not expanded as much as we have here. The ideology is consistent. Small state low welfare spending low taxation.

At first I thought they are not from the area and its just people pretending. But when you watch the video it's clear they are. So where are they going with this ideologically? I mean we have never had lower unemployment. We are already taxed highly.

I mean do they want to get rid of socialized housing or what??

Middle class ireland is just waiting for a tax break tbh lets not pretend the people protesting don't have anti social elements in the areas they claim to represent.

The idea of a socialized facist like in germany in the 30s was only possible during the time when the working class represented a sizable portion of society.

The vast majority of irish people are middle class now. You get taxed highly AND you have to put up with people like the national party?? yeah no they are not going to vote for that.

UKIP generally ran on the idea of can you ' tax the poor less.' They never pretended they were going to expand services. They may have lied and said if you stop immigration there will be billions extra for the white working class i seem to remember a figure on a bus. But i mean the amount we spend on asylum is a drop in the ocean compared to what we generally spend on social services.

Where are they going with this? Or is it just an excuse to frighten immigrants?

I mean their behaviour depicts people who just want to be able to scream abuse at foreigners. It's not as if they politely and respectfully protested is it?

Not true ...remember when the garda car was rammed?

They are getting it.

FG and FF just said no asylum seeker will now get govt providing them with accommodation.

For those of use who are political analysts.....this comes from the John Hume strategy book ..when your opposition is doing something ...steal their idea and offer it in a more palatable way. When SF campaigned for something during the troubles he would then take it up and say hey look im giving you the same thing and i am not an extremist and not committing violence.

So FG and FF have shrewdly realized this and also ...they have now realized there is possibly more hunger for further right wing policies ..such as tax cuts and that they can get away with it.

IMO fg and ff will move in on things further to the right ...leave the left to SF ....that is what we will see in future.

Ironically it will prob mean every future govt will care less about the communities protesting now than ever.

Saying there is no more accommodation when there is no more accommodation isn't far right. It's a fact.

Saying this is less extreme than advertising for people to come in multiple languages promising own door accommodation. Which this government did.

Ok

Yeah I saw it. He got a fine of 10k ...awful. Look im going to level with you...some people dont even believe the stuff they say ..its just justification ...they need a reason to convince you of their argument it's often a reason that is surface deep and lacking in any real perception ...

I have given up on politics. Im cynical ....i don't even vote anymore.

How large and important do you think the far right are in this country?

It’s valid to do so given the point of this thread. Unfortunately we can’t deport our native criminals, but we can and should immediately revoke any asylum claim of someone involved in a violent crime. We are naïve idiots not to.

by the way we are legally obligated to take in 4k refugees per year last year we took 2500 roughly

https://www.worlddata.info/europe/ireland/asylum.php

there are not as many applications as the far right would tell you

I figure i gave was for 2021 its correct. I wonder why the jump. The world is getting worse then?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/five-times-as-many-refugees-as-last-year-coming-to-ireland-says-taoiseach-amid-move-to-tighten-border-controls-41852452.html