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Ireland running out of accommodation for Ukrainian refugees due to surge in non-Ukrainian refugees?



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 67,698 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭ Beasty

    Following assurances given by the poster One eyed Jack threadban lifted

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,791 ✭✭✭✭ Strazdas

    But you're speaking as if to try and slow down or even the stop the population from growing is a perfectly normal and natural thing for any government to do. Most countries who have strict visa systems in place such as the US and Australia are not trying to 'control' the population size but simply the type of migrant worker entering the country. Both countries have higher net immigration than Ireland, even with quite a strict visa system, a point that is completely lost on the Ireland is full guys.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭ walterking

    what is laughable is that the vast majority of "protestors" and also of the far right scum leading the protestors are unemployed, live free off the state (taxpayer) and probably never contributed once cent in employment taxes and many will have their own criminal records.

    Now we see a group attack rough sleepers in Ashtown. the same rough sleepers that they mimic when protesting and using tents.

    What a phenomenally stupid group of people - and anyone associated are equally as stupid and gullible and rather sad excuses for human beings

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭ arctictree

    I don't get why the Govt. are saying there is no accomodation available. Just checked and airbnb and there are tonnes of rooms available in Dublin.

  • Registered Users Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭ spookwoman

    Sorry but the far left are really scrapping the barrel now for excuses. Protesters are far right, they are not from the area, they've never protested before, they are unemployed. We know a few are from the far right but that does not mean everyone out there protesting now is far right. The best I saw was the other day saying you never hear the "fash" talk about the convicted rapist Larry Murphy. How many protesters for Repeal the 8th etc gathered in Dublin and other places that were not from that area? How many of those that attended the vigils for Irish women who where recently killed held vigils for non irish women killed, how many where from that area where the vigil was held. No vigil for the poor Mongolian woman who was stabbed a few years back in Dublin. There are a lot of double standards coming from the left at the moment.

    Back in 2014 there were anti Roma protests here in Waterford sparked by claims of a 12 year old being groomed. Also complaints of criminality and aggressive begging. I know some of those protesters and they are not far right, those same people had a fb page set up that was listing people who committed crimes and where they were. When I spoke out about that page because it could damage any trials I was the bad person, I was on the criminals sides etc. Some of those same people are now using the race card against those that are protesting about the refugees and lack of housing. The same people will complain about Travellers but I guess it's ok to protest or complain about some people as long as they are the same as those you don't like.

  • Registered Users Posts: 563 ✭✭✭ lmao10

    Some people have legitimate concerns of course and but the far right are a major presence at these protests and responsible for organising most of them and trying to use them to preach their sickening rhetoric.

  • Registered Users Posts: 14,940 ✭✭✭✭ ILoveYourVibes

    I don't like the dehumanizing language sept 23 is using. However it raises a point.

    In the USA there is not the socialized supports we have in Ireland and they are certainly not expanded as much as we have here. The ideology is consistent. Small state low welfare spending low taxation.

    At first I thought they are not from the area and its just people pretending. But when you watch the video it's clear they are. So where are they going with this ideologically? I mean we have never had lower unemployment. We are already taxed highly.

    I mean do they want to get rid of socialized housing or what??

    Middle class ireland is just waiting for a tax break tbh lets not pretend the people protesting don't have anti social elements in the areas they claim to represent.

    The idea of a socialized facist like in germany in the 30s was only possible during the time when the working class represented a sizable portion of society.

    The vast majority of irish people are middle class now. You get taxed highly AND you have to put up with people like the national party?? yeah no they are not going to vote for that.

    UKIP generally ran on the idea of can you ' tax the poor less.' They never pretended they were going to expand services. They may have lied and said if you stop immigration there will be billions extra for the white working class i seem to remember a figure on a bus. But i mean the amount we spend on asylum is a drop in the ocean compared to what we generally spend on social services.

    Where are they going with this? Or is it just an excuse to frighten immigrants?

    I mean their behaviour depicts people who just want to be able to scream abuse at foreigners. It's not as if they politely and respectfully protested is it?

  • Registered Users Posts: 563 ✭✭✭ lmao10

    Every crime committed by a migrant is extensively posted on here while the crimes by native Irish are glossed over by those same people, if that's any consolation to you.

  • Registered Users Posts: 14,940 ✭✭✭✭ ILoveYourVibes

    Not true ...remember when the garda car was rammed?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,940 ✭✭✭✭ ILoveYourVibes

    They are getting it.

    FG and FF just said no asylum seeker will now get govt providing them with accommodation.

    For those of use who are political analysts.....this comes from the John Hume strategy book ..when your opposition is doing something ...steal their idea and offer it in a more palatable way. When SF campaigned for something during the troubles he would then take it up and say hey look im giving you the same thing and i am not an extremist and not committing violence.

    So FG and FF have shrewdly realized this and also ...they have now realized there is possibly more hunger for further right wing policies ..such as tax cuts and that they can get away with it.

    IMO fg and ff will move in on things further to the right ...leave the left to SF ....that is what we will see in future.

    Ironically it will prob mean every future govt will care less about the communities protesting now than ever.