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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 877 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    Germany industry will very likely struggle over the next decade, it's already happening, but the idea that they wouldn't be able to produce a few tanks because of the lack of metal is nonsense.

    A tank weighs 60 ton. Sweden alone produces about 85 million tons of iron ore a year. Large buildings have tens of thousands of steel. If we are heading back into a cold war there will be plenty of steel for tanks(and other more useful weapons).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,620 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Not for lack of metal, but lack of affordable metal.

    Look at the amount of all sorts of precious and common metals that russia supplied to worldwide markets - now imagine what happens to a market when one of the biggest providers is suddenly locked out? Although to date, not all russian metal products have been sanctioned, because we are so reliant on them as a worldwide supplier. US is still buying titanium by the bucket load, aluminium and certain types of steel are as of right now, unsanctioned. Will it remain that way? Who knows

    If we are not to trust reliance on russian gas, then reliance on russian metals should surely be treated the same way too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,580 ✭✭✭Cordell


    There appears to be plenty of gas in Europe

    There is plenty of gas and oil in Europe, but it needs to be fracked. Only thing is that decades of russian lobby and russian backed green propaganda ensured that not only fracking is banned all across EU, but also people actually fear the word itself, even people who aren't particularly environment conscious will have a reaction when they hear fracking. Same goes for nuclear btw.



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    Like everything else they come out with

    Russia isnt exactly known for obeying international laws and treaties



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    This is a problem.


    Russia can just keep lobbing Mercenaries at Ukraine and luge Russian public won’t see huge numbers of Russian men dying.


    And as we see it is getting results on the battlefield.



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    After EU and G7 countries put a price cap on russian oil at 60$ a barrel,,it seems like the Russian economy will suffer alot and more to come in February.

    We will see how much impact it will have on the war in Ukraine




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,779 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Might not be a long term problem. From that article it's mainly prison convicts that are being used as fodder. The assumption is that Russian society doesn't care how many of those get killed. When that supply line starts to dry up, Wagner will struggle to repeat any of its gains.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Ukraine will just fly Kamikazi drones into them.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    As I posted a while back, that price cap is estimated to be costing them $65 million a day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I hope Polands PM is suitably enraged, he might do something sensible, in the heat of the moment.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,620 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    9 officials, mix of deputy ministers and heads of regional Oblasts have been fired by Ukraine cabinet of ministers today



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    Probably more,because there will be a second round of sanctions coming in on from February 5 th.

    And since it costs Russia 40$ a barrel to extract oil and since they cant stop production because it will block the pipelines,they will have a real problem on their hands.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    That source of cannon fodder seems to have worked out well. I guess they will have to go back to mobilizing heating technicians and other similar non vital workers. Might I suggest air-traffic controllers? Won't be needing those for a decade or so.

    One of my sources was chortling over a town in Russia that has spent a week at -30 - 40° C with a complete lack of heating due to a breakdown, because the Orcs were anticipating Europe freezing without their gas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭live4tkd


    The insanity continues:

    Russian authorities have again adjusted the domestic continuing airworthiness procedures to help operators cope with sanctions.

    The Federal Air Transport Agency (Rosaviatsia) has formally given approval to aircraft cannibalization, meaning that parts from grounded airframes can be re-installed on in-service aircraft.

    The legislative amendments were approved Dec. 26, 2022, although the provisions related directly to cannibalization remain classified. Citing sources from Russian airlines, Moscow-based newspaper Izvestia reported that a part taken from a grounded aircraft should be tested in order to receive airworthiness approval tags, and then tested again after being installed on a different aircraft.

    Rosaviatsia is now allowing the installation of non-original spare parts on Russian-operated foreign-made commercial aircraft, without seeking approval from the type-certificate holders.

    The new provisions mark another step in the reorganization of the country’s continued airworthiness standards, moving it further away from Western norms. 

    For decades, Western-made commercial aircraft operated in Russia have been registered in foreign jurisdictions, mostly Bermuda and Ireland. The airworthiness maintenance of the aircraft was regulated by the authorities in those countries.

    The situation changed in March 2022 when Western countries banned aircraft deliveries and services to Russia after its invasion of Ukraine, which began Feb. 24. In response, the Kremlin transferred about 600 Western-made aircraft to the local registry, entrusting Rosaviatsia to take care of their continued airworthiness.

    The agency automatically extended the airworthiness certificates of these aircraft until the end of 2022. It also expanded the list of Russian MRO providers which could maintain and repair Western-made jets to replace suspended EASA and Bermuda Part 145 certificates. 

    Russian carriers appear to have found alternative ways to obtain aircraft spare parts, while Rosaviatsia allowed the installation of parts approved by two dozen foreign authorities, including FAA and EASA, as well as Aruba, Brazil, Bermuda, Canada, China, Egypt, India, Iran, Ireland, Israel, Jordan, Mexico, South Africa, Thailand, Turkey, the UAE, the UK and Uzbekistan.

    From September to December 2022, Rosaviatsia inspected 90% of the Russian-operated aircraft that were previously registered abroad to prolong their airworthiness certificates for another term.

    How long can they keep this up for? Those aircraft (that they stole from leasors!) would only be able to fly internally only. They haven`t a hope of getting parts (power generation equipment etc) as these are made repaired by western companies (I work for 1 such company). It really makes no sense and one of the most stupid moves ever made.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    A "fascist dictatorship" where nearly all the military and political leadership have been members of the Communist party, whose army carry hammer and sickle flags, erected statues of Lenin in Ukraine.


    Whose loudest supporters in the West are all Socialist, who have the German Socialist party blocking weaponry that could be a game changer for Ukraine.


    Modern Russia is not a pure Communist State. It has the training and mindset of one though.


    If it was a proper Communist one. Ukraine would be in big trouble, they worked savagery in war and peace. Especially in Ukraine, that Putin will never come close to, try as he might.

    People really should read up on the scale of killing and brutality of Soviet life, from Lenin on.


    The Communists beat their one time allies in WW2 because they were a much more murderous society.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    In nearly all European countries bar Poland and a small part of Germany, it is geology that is stopping fracking.


    If European countries elected parties whose sole aim was to frack and the ECB wrote cheques to fund it, it would still not create a fracking industry in Europe that was anything but a minnow. Geology is bigger than politics.


    I have zero problems with fracking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    India might help them out.

    NEW DELHI, Nov 29 (Reuters) - Moscow has sent India a list of more than 500 products for potential delivery including parts for cars, aircraft and trains, four sources familiar with the matter said, as sanctions squeeze Russia's ability to keep vital industries running...

    For aircraft and helicopters, Russia requested 41 items including landing gear components, fuel systems, communication systems and fire extinguishing systems, life jackets and aviation tyres. https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-asked-by-sanctions-hit-russia-parts-key-sectors-sources-2022-11-29/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭live4tkd


    Maybe some but they haven`t a hope with some of the technologies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,062 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Isn't it to do with distribution of shale rocks ?

    And the large potentially gas holding shake deposits in Europe are Poland and .. eastern Ukraine ...

    Is it linked to coal deposits ? Donbass ,Poland ,parts of Germany,northern England ,

    It's gotten a lot more effective and cleaner than it used to be, as the tech has become more developed ..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui



    Those Germans are unbelievable. They are saying they are not opposed to supplying tanks but want others to do so also?

    How stupid do they think we are? Poland is willing, but is being blocked by Germany. So this bleep thinks we can't see the nonsense of this chicken or the egg rubbish they are pulling?

    So because they are blocking others from supplying tanks, they can cite a lack of other countries supplying tanks as justification for them not doing so?

    They don't just support Orcs they have turned into them. This insane logic could have come straight from that piece of filth, Lavrov.

    A Ukrainian political scientist believes Putin contacted Scholz early in the new year and successfully threatened him.

    Why Germany has abruptly changed its position on Leopard tanks for Ukraine: political analyst on possible influence of Putin.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin may be the probable reason for Germany's sudden change of position, namely that of its Chancellor Olaf Scholz, regarding the transfer of Leopard tanks to Ukraine.

    Political analyst Mykola Davydyuk said this.

    "I have a certain strong feeling that Scholz was greeted on New Year's Day by Putin. And he gave a very tough ultimatum," the analyst said.

    According to him, some factors have significantly influenced the chancellor's position. Davidiuk recalled what Scholz's position was on supporting Ukraine at the end of 2022.

    "Remember what he was like before the New Year: he came out on top in terms of assistance, asked forgiveness to Ukrainians, promised to help, did not wish Putin to win, saw Ukraine win," he recalled.

    The expert also stressed that with the beginning of 2023, Scholz said that he could not transfer tanks to Ukraine, did not agree to give permission to supply them to other countries, there was no talk of additional weapons equipment now either.

    Call their bluff?

    The US should send at least one M1 Abrams tank to Ukraine to push Germany to provide its own Leopards

    The chair of the US Congress' House Foreign Affairs Committee, Republican Michael McCaul, said this in an interview with ABC News.

    “If we announced we were going to give Abrams tanks, just one ... what I hear is that Germany is waiting for us to take the lead. Then they would put Leopard tanks in. And remember, there are about 10 countries that have Leopard tanks, but they need Germany to sign off,” he noted. 

    He emphasized that he supports sending Abrams tanks from the US, even if there are only a few of them, in order to unblock Ukraine's receipt of Leopard tanks from Germany, Poland and other allies. 

    “There's gonna be a winter offensive by the Russians. They need these tanks on the eastern flank in the Donbas. They also need the ATACMS, the longer-range artillery, to hit Crimea where the Iranian drones are,” McCaul added.

    https://global.espreso.tv/us-congress-calls-for-abrams-tank-to-be-sent-to-ukraine-to-stimulate-germany



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,646 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Probably not worth delving into this too much more, but the deposits in Europe in general are far more compartmentalised and harder to access. Even when it was allowed they were never that successful.

    Not everything is a nefarious plot by Russia and we give them too much credit sometimes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,060 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    The Uk is also suitable, as are parts of Ireland, but it's getting a bit OT.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭Sultan of Bling


    What would Putin have threatened him with.

    Do you think he has some dirt on him?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    It's off topic but the last and next 50 pages can be summed up in:

    "Russia move 50 feet for 20k dead.

    Germany not sending something

    We'll all be nuked.

    Clare Daly and Wallace are some dose.

    Russian forces starving in a hole because some one up the chain sold their food."


    I have a family member who works in a majors exploration dept. Fracking in Europe is considered a waste, the head of BP said as much in 2014 approx.


    There are fields where estimates of 1300 trillion cubic feet, Bowland-Hodder shale, basically the north of England/Midlands were reported, 40 times the entire Russian, 20% of the entire global reserve of known Gas, such lunatic figures were regular occurrences, their was a small field in Staffordshire down for Billions of cubic feet, replicated all over Europe.


    If the Tories thought that one shale formation in England, never mind all the others reported from Britain, would make England richer than OPEC, nothing would have stopped it


    The Govts of Poland, Romania, Czech Republic, Hungary have had no real problem with fracking and little opposition, they have shale reserves that would make them each global powerhouses, that was until the rigs started testing.


    The kicker is that the oil major geologists laugh at the reserves, the test wells all come up duds. They understand why they are duds, geology. Nevermind the industry challenges, Political opposition is no 4 or 5 on the list and the smallest challenge of the 5.



    With regards to ourselves, 10 to 20 trillion in shale reserves are estimated in the Lough Allen basin, my farm is in North West Cork, shale wise part of the Clare Basin. I would let fracking operations start today.


    Shale in Europe will only ever be a tiny player. In most of Europe it isn't a prospect and you won't get companies to bother trying even where society and State beg.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Scholz was described as a doctrinal Marxist in the 80s.

    As pointed out he a history of access to East Germany, others could never have.


    His position for Russia is ideological.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,620 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    So much for donations to collective security

    No such thing as a free lunch



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 877 ✭✭✭eoinbn


    Is modern day Russia a marxist state? Or is Scholtz a sentimentalist? Hard to keep up with the crazy theories in this thread.

    Scholz is a pacifist. Not the ideal trait in a time of war but it doesn't make him some Russia stooge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭ElitesTeam




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,669 ✭✭✭Rawr


    I guess the Russian airlines can kiss goodbye to any chance of getting a post-war EU Airworthiness Certificate for a long looong while…..oh well.

    (Also, any attempt to fly their stolen aircraft beyond Russia will likely get them seized unless they are very picky about the destination.)



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