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In Grosny, even after levelling the city itself, and the surrounding villages, he still could not control the Chechens even with the might of the Russian Army as it was back then. He had to get a local Chechen war lord Kadyrov to do it for him, at cost of Billions of Rubles each year. Then you have Afghanistan, where even if he was there to the present day, he would not control it. An now in the extremely unlikely event that he took Ukraine, it would be the same as trying to control both Afghanistan and Chechnya at the same time, only 10 times worse.

I don't know , Ukraine is a more modern society ,than either Chechnya or Afghanistan,and the terrain in Ukraine allows for connectivity ,

Chechnya and Afghanistan both had more isolated tribal / warlord culture , seperated by mountains , giving an independent and isolated view of how the world worked .

Add to that the us and them attitude propped up by religion .. and I think Ukraine is more easily subdued - and has been several times in the last century ..

Very unfortunate that it crashed into a nursery, extremely unlucky. It's been a bad week for the country, first Dnipro and now this.

4 kids dead from the helicopter crash according to a Ukrainian source.

There has been a surprisingly sympathetic response from the Russians on Telegram.

It's no more flamable than any other kerosene.

And Scholz as usual not committing to sending tanks.

Definitely some good news needed after these last few days.

Ramstein meeting on Friday, so I'd hope for an announcement then.

If Ukraine are planning a spring offensive then there needs to be big announcements Friday. Big ticket items are the leopard MBT's and ATACAM's. Ukraine need to hit those ammo depots and supply lines before any major counter offensive.

If the west are serious about backing Ukraine, then they need to give Ukraine what it needs for a counter offensive.

While the death toll of children has thankfully been revised downwards, several are in a burns unit. What a terrible week.

This is how to talk-

They have proven even more unreliable than the Russian channels on Telegram.

Source?

Yes thats true, but the main difference between then and now is that in the past Ukraine did not have anything like the world wide support it now has. Putin has seriously managed to piss off the major world leaders., and it was only because the US stepped in that Afghanistan managed to get rid of the Russians. And if it boils down to Guerrilla warfare in Ukraine, no doubt the US+ others will step in again. One of the main reasons that Russian withdrew from Afghanistan, was because of the economic cost....Afghanistan war costs were driving Russia to bankruptcy. Same as is happening now. Apparently with the exodus of western company's from Russia, the jobs market shrank massively too, and to maintain some kind of stability, Putin has had to "create" jobs, paid for out of the public purse. Which of course adds to the financial demands being made on Russian cash.

Within a few days of their arrival in the search for Bin Laden, the US had chased the Taliban out of the Country, and this is under the very same circumstances you describe, heading for mountains etc. Drones and satellites have blocked off these avenues of escape. For 20 years they held it. They could retake it again very quickly if they wanted. Afghanistan did not defeat the Americans militarily.... Afghans defeated Afghans, helped with massive support from Pakistan.

For Ukraine, I seem to remember the Germans using the same methods during the ww2 in any Country they controlled, and that did not stop the resistance back then either.

Both Afghanistan and Ukraine share one very powerful trait....With Afghans, they were united not only as citizens against an invader, but by religion, it was a Religious war against the unbeliever.

With Ukraine, Putins murderous escapades has united the whole country against him. In the generations yet to come, they will remember these atrocities'.

There you have the most powerful motivation known to Man for fighting and destroying invaders. The Russians do not possess a fraction of this kind of powerful motivation, but you can rest assured Russian Invaders lives will be made hell.