The reason they don't invade is that Russia doesn't have the equipment an manpower .... Finland and Poland would annihilate them without even looking at NATO
4 kids dead from the helicopter crash according to a Ukrainian source.
There has been a surprisingly sympathetic response from the Russians on Telegram.
Police state russia.
Very unfortunate that it crashed into a nursery, extremely unlucky. It's been a bad week for the country, first Dnipro and now this.
Friend of mine works for HSE here and has to travel to offshore rigs every few weeks to do safely inspections, Helicopter from Aberdeen to rigs can take up to 4 hours. Told him you wouldn't get me in one for 4 minutes, had to do a 20 minute flight in one once and swore I would rather walk than do it again.
I don't know , Ukraine is a more modern society ,than either Chechnya or Afghanistan,and the terrain in Ukraine allows for connectivity ,
Chechnya and Afghanistan both had more isolated tribal / warlord culture , seperated by mountains , giving an independent and isolated view of how the world worked .
Add to that the us and them attitude propped up by religion .. and I think Ukraine is more easily subdued - and has been several times in the last century ..
Aviation fuel is super flammable ,if they didn't have the right equipment to fight that particular fire it would have spread rapidly especially after an explosion
In Grosny, even after levelling the city itself, and the surrounding villages, he still could not control the Chechens even with the might of the Russian Army as it was back then. He had to get a local Chechen war lord Kadyrov to do it for him, at cost of Billions of Rubles each year. Then you have Afghanistan, where even if he was there to the present day, he would not control it. An now in the extremely unlikely event that he took Ukraine, it would be the same as trying to control both Afghanistan and Chechnya at the same time, only 10 times worse.
Helicopters are as lethal as they are vulnerable. Same could be said about the T80.
Yeah helicopters always strike me as accidents waiting to happen, and they do happen a lot.
This is a very sad accident though
I can't understand how a helicopter crash could start 3 big fires on the ground.
Sweden? [edit] ah, I see now.
Whoever coloured the map of Ukraine for sure... They will be asked to consider some blue sky thinking up close and personal.
The puma helicopter that crashed was flying in heavy fog this morning and flying fairly low level,
In Most cities helicopters aren't allowed fly directly over populated areas instead they have to fly around rather than through on certain paths,
In London helicopters have to fly Along the themes river rather than over the city
Kind of makes me wonder, if that embassey had the abilites to Photoshop that map to include Crimea in Russia, what else in Ukraine would they also define as "Russia"? My guess is that they can't becuase they haven't a f*cking clue what the border should look like, and know damned well they have no real claim to any of it.
But I do still enjoy how feckless their Overseas staff are that they can't even double-check a map on a tweet that makes some feeble remark about fuel inflation.
It appears to be a French super puma helicopter
9 in the chopper Inc 3 crew and 9 on the ground looks like low visibility
Things are bad enough for them the minister was well respected
One could only wish this on putin although I would wish a slow and painful with a large audience
No doubt Russia will claim it either way.
Wait for photo shopped pictures of putin himself carrying an rpg with the blondy one in the background looking adoring at him
Helicopters are notoriously dangerous. Mate of mine flies both planes and helicopters, but always speaks about how dangerous the heli is. Could well be a tragic accident.
In regards to the Chopper crash, I think more choppers go down from mechanical failure than acts of violence. There was a former US airforce guy back in the 1990s that said of helicopters that if one wanted to stay alive in the air stay the hell away from choppers as they are machines that were made up of thousands of parts all trying to tear each other apart.
Defenestration beckons for someone in Sweden...
eyewitnesses reported seeing fire in the helicopter before it came crashing to the ground
minister of interior and head of internal affairs both killed. No reports of Russian AA missiles involved yet
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Accident or targeted?
"KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — A helicopter crash in a Kyiv suburb Wednesday killed 16 people, including Ukraine’s interior minister and two children, according to Ihor Klymenko, chief of Ukraine’s National Police.
Nine of those killed were aboard the emergency services helicopter that crashed in Brovary, Kyiv’s eastern suburb, Klymenko said."
What is the international regulation/agreements/ understanding with regards to - , in this case Ukraine- developing a nuclear deterrent be it on land, in the air or at sea? . Could it just ‘buy ‘ the skills to develop the ability - in the same way that it might buy/ import / install an electricity producing power station?
and all the while their "friends" the chinese are watching their "ally" getting weaker all the time
Rolling into where?
The only rolling Russia is doing is of the over and dying type.
They haven’t got the military or leadership to roll anywhere else.
they have destroyed the myth of having any power at all.
The more I hear about this putin the less I care for em
You must have a very dirty mind, I was talking about your weapon being an AK47, Steyr , SA80 or some such, youre the one who brought "porn" in to it.,,,,filth bag
And yes, the Orcs would for sure be frightened if they saw you booting it across the front line with your weapon in your hand, fully loaded and ready for action....who wouldnt I dare say ?
Exactly he is not afraid of NATO as it's defensive thats been proven. The are however Very afraid of the Response that would be short sharp and very destructive. Kind of reminds me of mega lo mania game where you had cave men fighting guys with lasers.
Yes, since Feb 2022, this has been clear. Putin has been very carefully tiptoeing around NATO Countrys.....he knows very well what the outcome would be if he did attack them.
How would they get footage from the secure network. I mean if they are able to get video they are intercepting the communications network and can tell where the drones are for a start. I mean even the Ukrainians are not doing that. Their kit is probably microwave or complete spectrum jam so the drone looses contact and resorts to auto land.
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