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Random EV thoughts.....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I kinda feel like Japanese car companies have two settings when it comes to styling, extremely conservative or way off the deep end


    The end result of them being liberal can be very strange (Nissan Cube being my favourite example) and I feel like the black wings on the BZ4X was a case of this

    It's nice to see something different than a collection of almost identical looking SUVs, but I still don't think it looks good

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,576 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Looks as though the panel guy has done his bit post minor accident, now off to the paint shop..☺️

    A bit harsh perhaps, would be a good looker if all one colour.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    It does have that vibe a bit, reminds me of the stereotypical battered Hiace with one door a different colour 😂

    Actually looking at the white one now has somehow reminded me of some cartooney silhouette of a guy with a goatee and sideburns and now I can't unsee it


    As you said, it's not a bad looking car, but just a bit out there for my taste

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Andy from EVM telling the truth


    I have to say, I think he's giving one of the most honest assessments of the situation in the UK and it's mostly true here IMO

    Mostly it's around the public charging networks not keeping pace with EV sales and as a result the experience if you're reliant on public charging isn't good


    I feel the situation is the same here, and although the fast charging network is getting better, it's slow and mostly optimised for motorway journeys

    And to his credit, rather than sitting and moaning, he's been speaking to councillors and MPs about getting more chargers installed and what can be done


    I guess we should probably be following his example and start annoying our public representatives about the lack of chargers in the area

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭MightyMunster


    Problem is your local representative isn't in the place where you need chargers. Like if you live in Dublin and the charging in Westport, Sligo or Dingle isn't good enough for you there's no votes in that for them....



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 429 ✭✭Dubwat


    The local rep might be concerned if tourists choose different areas to visit because of the lack of charging? And s/he might get extra votes if they become the local expert on getting grants for chargers & similar for hotels, B&B's etc.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,019 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    Tourism is a big employer in them areas, (and I live in one) we should be pushing for more in these areas.

    Id probably never use them. But people visiting, spending money in my local area, etc are.

    It will be something I'd be talking to them about when the co. Council elections come around as it's the co co the pressure needs to be put on. There is funding there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Well we need chargers for locals as well, and that's something local councillors could help with

    For example near me the council has recently built a car park near the local sports pitches


    There's several EV owners near me who have on street parking and no home charger and would benefit from a local hub


    There doesn't seem to be any sign of chargers even though it would be the perfect place for a DC charger hub. Something like a 4 car hub like what Applegreen have been installing would be perfect

    The council could partner with EasyGo for example, wouldn't cost them anything and would support an Irish business

    There's lots of similar examples of bits of council land which could be used for DC hubs and would make life a lot easier for EV owners

    The council can also introduce planning rules that require a certain amount of chargers in a car park. I think there's something like this already but it seems woefully inadequate, lots of 7kW chargers installed in supermarkets where you're unlikely to spend more than an hour


    Making the rules clearer about the minimum amount of charging power required would really help out

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,988 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    I'm not having a go here (although it will sound like it).

    Any DC hubs being installed in Dublin are almost constantly in use by taxis. I understand they are totally within their rights to use them, but it's off putting that when you pull up to a charger there are at least one if not 2 taxis there and more waiting.

    I gave up on the one in Templeville because of this and now SuperValu in kimmage is the same. I've seen all 3 chargers in use here and taxis queuing (and others driving past and leaving!!).

    DC hubs are great but I would love to see loads (and I mean hundreds) of AC chargers dotted around the city for those (soon to be me!!) without home charging.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Well let's be honest, were they really hubs


    I've said it before that DC hubs should be 4 cars minimum, so basically all those 50kW ESB triple heads don't count


    I think that would result in a big drop in queues in general

    I agree though that there needs to be a solution for taxi's as well, maybe reconfigure the ranks so they support DC chargers as well


    If they were exclusive to taxis then they'd be less inclined to use the public network

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Volvo electric truck in action (you'll need to learn German or turn on auto translate)

    I'll give them credit, it's a pretty honest assessment from a diesel head


    115kWh/100km 😱

    Definitely not an Ioniq 😂


    The driving experience seems spot on, but the 300km max range isn't enough for all applications

    The charging also needs to improve, hopefully MCS will fix that


    It's interesting because you can see all the problems that EV drivers were dealing with in 2017 being repeated here


    If this is the first iteration, then I would call it a very good attempt. With some improvements in charging and battery technology then you could see 500km ranges being feasible (in something other than a Tesla semi)

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,988 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    The SuperValu ones are a single 50 KW unit and a twin 150 unit beside it.

    However it's ESB so they are set up arseways!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Really? I'm actually impressed as I assumed they were a single 50kW

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,988 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Yeah and I think they've one installed at knocklyon SuperValu also. Again installed arseways but it's a start.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Well, marginally less sh!t is still sh!t


    It's progress for sure, but it isn't a hub. After seeing what Applegreen are willing to install, Ecars have been blown out of the water

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭cannco253




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Good news, the more the merrier

    Although, I still go back to my usual argument that you should judge a network on chargers available rather than announced

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭denismc


    Just a note, the WEEV branded chargers can be started with the "EPower" app which might be familiar to users here.

    https://www.epower.ie/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,178 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    In Istanbul Airport, and they have a Togg Sedan on display, Turkey’s first EV, and it’s a very pretty car….

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,733 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Suicide doors look interesting until everyone wants to get in or out of the car at the same time.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,825 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Very S looking from the rear, looks like a beaut but those doors, no way



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,733 ✭✭✭✭josip


    You would imagine that if the business case for these stacks up, they'll need to be making way more than 1000 per year.

    https://newatlas.com/automotive/tevva-mass-production-tev75-electric-truck/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,003 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Well it looks like they're only producing for the UK this year. And to be fair they're bringing the factory up from basically zero


    If you think of Volvo or Mercedes electric trucks, they're pretty much the same chassis as the diesel ones. So I imagine they can resume a lot of the parts and tooling which gives them a headstart on manufacturing

    Also to be frank I suspect companies are a bit reluctant to order a truck they'll probably operate for 7 or 8 years from a company that might be bankrupt by 2024

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭cannco253




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,386 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Big price cuts on Tesla's in the US yesterday/overnight it seems.

    $3,000 off the M3, $9,000 off an M3P, $13,000 off the MYLR and MYP. Other models got discounts as well.

    Reductions in some EU countries as well.


    Edit: M3 is showing as €45,660 here with blue paint. Not sure if that's a reduction?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭yer man!


    Yup that's a big reduction of like 7.5k, nice to see!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭traco


    There is 10k off the LR since I saved a quote in October, that brings it under the grant cut off now doesn't it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    Why have they dropped the prices? Falling sales due to the grant changes in many countries? That will have a big impact on the value of existing cars.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    they said that they are cuting production costs which is why they can do it.

    also.. " Musk acknowledged last year that prices had become "embarrassingly high" and could hurt demand."

    I'd agree with that, especially when you think that the "value" in a tesla isnt its build quality or its looks but the intelligence that comes with it BUT you even need to pay extra for that, and the last time I heard the cash you pay for upgrades gets lost when you sell the thing on as they switch them off.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭traco


    I had pretty much decided to hold off and stick to the ICE as I have mad random road trips with work but this price drop has me back on the fence again. LR model 3 is tempting now.



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