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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭junkyarddog


    Communication problems in the russian ranks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭junkyarddog


    I've often wondered about the authenticity of the intercepted phone calls,but if genuine this one is chilling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,083 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    In connection with Mr. Podolyak's statement that the AFU does not intend to meet the Kremlin's demands for a "unilateral ceasefire", I have a few remarks to make:


    - I withdraw from yesterday's review-forecast the unfoundedly bold assumption about the possibility of our troops completing an assault on Marinka in a week or a week and a half. If Marinka will ever be taken, it will be much later, as during the 36 hours of our "abstention" the AFU will seriously fortify its positions and reinforce the garrison;


    - Vladimir Vladimirovich has taken such a bold and decisive step towards defeat and capitulation in the current war as has never been seen in the past 10.5 months of the so-called "SWO". The Hague applauds and begins to prepare the chamber. (Unless, of course, the issue is preemptively resolved by the unauthorised insertion of a shovel cutter into the back door, as was the case with Gaddafi);


    - The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - just delighted: they will be able to experience all "charms" of unilateral ceasefires, which the LDPR corps had experienced for the previous 8 years. I think our military will like it. "De-escalation" and "Regrouping", as well as the "Uncomplicated Solution" - the RF Armed Forces have already appreciated it. Now - a new stage...

    Just in, the latest misery-fest from Igor Girkin.

    Criticism of the Russian military and Putin. I am amazed he can get away with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Two orc aircraft shot down over ukraine one helicopter and su30/Su35 jet pilot has also been captured alive,

    Western armor coming, patriots coming,and tanks are a possibility.

    Its not been a great week for the orc's at all and it's not even the weekend yet



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    I can't imagine the horrors they have been through or seen.

    I hope I never have too.

    I use to be the only Irish man in the village, but now there is two of us .

    A young Irish man who came to volunteer at the border is now in a relationship with a Ukrainian girl,they spend half there time in Poland and the rest transporting aid in the Ukraine.

    Even good things happen in the worst of events.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭blarney_boy


    Happy page 2500 to the regular posters on the thread!

    I'm hoping for a victorious Ukraine and a sombre funeral in the Kremlin before we reach page 3000 . . .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,017 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yes, the Lights in the Darkness!! Are ye working independently or with an organization? Which ever it is, keep safe.... heads down, and if possible asse's even lower, and don't go poking around in the bushes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭macraignil




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,902 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Quick tank question, may have already been answered by you elsewhere,

    But is there anyone producing brand new tank Hulls or clean sheet tank design's in Europe or stateside,



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,902 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    The US and Greece, it seems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    I know Ukraine did not want to take the cease fire and I can understand why but I think those 36 hrs they would of been put to great use for Ukraine probably would of gotten twice the value out of it compared to Russia in what they could of set up in those hrs. I suppose they looked at it and said feck it no quarter given and no weakness shown when we have the upper hand against Russia. I just think the 36 hrs would of been like in reality 72 hrs what Ukraine really would of gotten done in that time compared to the Russians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭Polar101


    There's also the question whether Russia will actually honour their own ceasefire. Most likely they'll just claim Ukraine attacked them during it, and "forced" them to retaliate.



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    Don't kid yourself, the orcs don't keep agreements.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,330 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    I suppose then it's just back to the way it was but I suppose its all mute point now anyhow as the ceasefire didn't happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    This coming from an previously claimed unbiased source of news in Ukraine.....




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,363 ✭✭✭Field east


    Where do all the areas of worship levelled by Russia eg churches, and all the Ukr civilians who were killed - being directly targeted/killed by Russia and who worshiped there fit in to a plea by Russia for a ceasefire ? It does not add up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,363 ✭✭✭Field east


    The Ukr could also postpone the celebration of Christmas on Jan 7 because of the very dangerous life threatening situation that is ongoing and get back to celebrating it when the EMMERGENCY has passed. We , IN ireland, did something similar recently ie because of the very dangerous life threatening Corona virus we postponed a lot of activities - including going to religious services.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Just help out when I can, most people are just volunteers some are members of organisations.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,363 ✭✭✭Field east


    J—-s wept. I would not trust the Russians to push even an empty pram not to say a one with a child in it. It is very capable of coming up with any reason - including a false one- to break a ceasefire and catch out the Ukr when it’s ‘ defences are on standby’



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭Run Forest Run


    It's something that should be expected really.

    The more western or Ukrainian hatred that Russians see/hear/experience, the more it will engender the same feelings in them. It won't really matter to them what the objective truth is necessarily or whether this is a just war or not. Hatred begets hatred. Violence begets violence.

    We experienced this ourselves, on this island, during the troubles. Both sides had equal hatred for each other, and felt completely justified in feeling that way. How many of those people were naturally hate filled people? The circumstances can turn many people into heartless monsters - plus it's much easier for a soldier to do their job effectively if they don't care about the people they're killing.

    Many of my own friends in Russia now cannot stand Ukraine or the west - and most were never really like this before. I am starting to see a big shift in attitude, where people care much less about what happens to Ukraine or the level of brutality used by the military in this war. In the beginning, it felt like a civil war against Slavic brothers... but not anymore. We are entering a very worrying period imho, because Putin will have been waiting for enough collective anger to justify more drastic measures. And he is very slowly starting to get that now. It's feeling more and more like a siege mentality now, where Russia must do whatever it takes - no matter how barbaric or ugly it may be.

    That's the danger of hatred on either side. The red mist descends and people can become capable of almost anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,581 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Beyond the link I posted I don't know about all the details but most orthodox churches celebrate Christmas on 25th of December. The ones that celebrate it on 7th of January are the ones still aligned with Russian church, e.g. Serbia and until recently Ukraine. Other orthodox countries like Bulgaria, Romania and Greece celebrate Christmas on 25th.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    @Run Forest Run

    Nice story,

    All bs of course



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    We've had nearly 12 months now of "Oh, we shouldn't offend the Russians! They'll get serious!". All while they attempt to decimate an innocent, sovereign nation with unrelenting war crimes. No one's swallowing it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    During the battle 73 Easting during the Gulf war ,a pretty significant tank battle 2 scout Bradleys took on 5 Iraqi main battle tanks and defeated them before a larger force of Abrams and other Bradleys arrived to support them during a broader battle, if I remember correctly one Bradley was damaged by enemy fire and another taken out by another Bradley(blue on blue),the Iraqis had lost a serious amount of vehicles and men by the time the battle had ended after 3 days.

    Bradleys and Abrams can essentially fight day and night due to superior tech and optics and in bad weather unlike Soviet era vehicles



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 886 ✭✭✭gk5000


    What shoite! "Russians siege mentality"....they are not under siege. "Slavic brothers..." ha ha except it's not funny.

    So do you agree with "justify more drastic measures"?

    Anyway "and people can become capable of almost anything."... given Russia has no moral sense, or even realisation it is the aggressor then it's shall have to be rendered incapable of offensive action outside its own borders. Eventually it will be given a big enough slap to fcuk off home and leave everybody else alone; and you can equally fcuk off and stop defending them, because its pointless and boring.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Would it really take months of training though? It's similar to training in say an F16, the time people quote to train fail to mention that's from training someone with zero flight experience. I'd imagine there's more in common between a Bradley and a BMP than different.

    I'm sure it would take months for a non military person to be trained, but an experienced tank/IFV crew should be able to pick it up pretty quick. If anything the Ukrainians have been praised for their quick grasp and training on NATO hardware.


    The sea sparrow is a good addition to NASAMS. Both have an abundance of missiles produced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,517 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    In the beginning it felt like civil war against Slavic brothers? Civil war that you and your lot started and that the Ukrainians wanted no party to. However, because they didn't roll over and play dead, you and the rest of your Russian ilk are now upset?

    If you hate the Ukrainians and West so much, head on back over to Russia but leave us and the Ukrainians alone



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    your 144 posts all as interesting as this? what's next? nukes?

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



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