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Post pics of your watches Part II

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,959 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


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    My Tissot Classic T033410A.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,025 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    I put my U2 back on to it's bracelet yesterday. This and the red silicon are my favourite 2 straps on this. With a black/green/red NATO running those a close 2nd.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,959 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


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    Lads. Here my vintage(ish) seiko. Passed on to me about 10 yrs ago. Anyone any info on this? Tried searching online but found nothing matching the numbers stamped on it. Im mainly interested in the year of production, Im guessing early to mid 90’s.

    Thanks.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,067 ✭✭✭Lorddrakul


    It appears to be a gold variant of the Seiko Ref V739-0830 quartz dress watch.

    Can't find a specific reference, but appears to be 90s vintage, as you correctly surmise.

    The steel versions go for about $150 online.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Ryath


    The bottom 6 digit serial, first number is year so I'd say 2001 unlikely to be 1991. Second is month 1-9 for Jan to Sept, O for Oct, N Nov and D Dec.

    So manufacture date Dec 2001



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,959 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    cheers for the info folks.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,725 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Sla037 on Erika's NATO I picked up in the black Friday sale

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭fulladapipes


    Looks really well there.

    Are those MN straps elasticy or non-stretchy? I'm tempted to get one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,725 ✭✭✭micks_address


    they are stretchy elastic.. ive had to many of them at this stage... very comfortable - they are not the same as the marine nationale straps (which i think are made from parachute straps).. ive had one of them from ndc straps in the uk.. they are a heavier material than the erika orginals



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,067 ✭✭✭Lorddrakul


    Had hankering for a Sub homage. Not interested in a Rolex.

    Saw this one on Adverts, from a brand that has a nice heritage.

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    I didn't want to spend much, as I recently had a very good Cosmograph homage, right down to the automatic movement, and was very disappointed at the poor legibility and sold it.

    A good deal was done and it arrived as a 90s tool watch should - with a few scars, a bit of wear, and the general charm of use.

    It is a 16610 homage, so the general specs are the same. It runs a Miyota 21 jewel 8215 movement, so 21,600 compared to 28,800, but that's no gripe.

    I have given the bracelet, clasp and ends links a good brush with Scotchbrite and it has come up nicely (not done in the pics).

    I also managed to do a half-link bodge with a spare link from another bracelet, as it was a bit tight (visible in the clasp pic).

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    Generally, I'd say it is much the same quality overall as a 1990s TAG Heuer, or the like.

    The movement is clean, but rough enough. It doesn't look as well finished as a Seiko, as was in my SKX.

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    Not sure what the contamination is on the rotor, but it is stable so I'm leaving it alone.

    On the timegrapher, it was running OK, but a beat error of 1.6ms and + 16s per day.

    With the beat error down to zero, it was reading +27s per day!

    Adjustment was tough as the mechanism is less than smooth, but eventually I got it down to this:

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    The amplitude could be a bit better, but I'd say it is on the original mainspring.

    Still, for such a simple, robust movement, if it manages to run at +1- +3s per day on the wrist, I'd more than happy with that.

    Overall, it was a very cheap way of scratching the Sub homage itch with a brand that has some heritage of its own (however modernised the current incarnation might be :) ).

    Still don't want a Rolex, mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 Allwheelsgood


    Nobody wants a Real Rolex until they get one!

    And then they never want another one... OR... it starts to fuel the need for more and different models......

    But it all starts with Homage....... enjoy!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,631 ✭✭✭Fitz II


    Dont want a Rolex just want a watch that looks exactly like one.....sounds legit.

    You dont scratch the Rolex itch with a homage, no more than you loose your virginity with masturbation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    I knew that would be like a rag red to a bull for ya!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,957 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Some take any negative comments about Rolex a bit too personally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,631 ✭✭✭Fitz II




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    To be fair Fitz, you do have a point.

    Over the Christmas I was having a convo with a chap who had a Tudor Black Bay and we kinda came around to a similar point. Now this chap would not be short of a bob or three, or four, but he picked the Black Bay rather than a Sub. And he was "offered to buy" either from a jeweller in the UK. He simply just liked the Tudor more.

    Now over the years he's sort of gotten into watches, without going full nutter, but in me he has a tame nutter he occasionally asks about the madness and he pointed out that I have suggested a Sub to him more than once, but yet don't have one myself. The plain fact is they just never personally appealed to me, save for the sell your house and your extended family's houses 70's MilSub. I did have a few very early Oysters/Bubblebacks in the 90's, but they don't count even to Rolex fans as their values show. It would certainly be a cost factor for me these days, but I've been a watch nutter in the days when you could pick up Subs for 800-1200 quid used and still didn't appeal(now if I had a time machine set to 95 to come back in 2020...).

    More to the/your point(finally😁) I also realised I've never owned any watch that came close to looking like a Sub, or a general "Rolex" for that matter. If I liked the look, I'd have either bought one back in the day, or today got a homage, but the latter would probably not sate my need.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭Dev1234


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    King Samurai with a red/orange strap, not fully sure what colour it is!!

    Love the watch and the strap is comfortable.

    I've a dark blue/navy strap that I need to take for a spin soon

    (Those with an OCD mindset please avert your gaze away from the date!!)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭Ian OB


    I'll just presume you're prolonging Christmas 🎅🥳🎅



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,067 ✭✭✭Lorddrakul


    You see, this is the issue.

    IMHO, some watches have become icons in themselves, transcending the brand from which they grew.

    The Submariner, the Cosmograph, the Speedmaster, the Pogue, the Astronaut, the Monaco - all, it could be argued, have gone beyond their makers to become design icons.

    As such, all of these watches, to a greater or lesser extent, have become the subject of homage treatments, some successfully, some not.

    If you think about the Submariner, when it came out, it was not a luxury item. Indeed, some of the best and most highly prized examples are the military or industrial ones, such as the Comex branded tool watches issued to actual divers. Or, the fact that Omegas and Rolex were made available to service people via surplus or base stores at heavily discounted prices, usually because they were robust and reliable.

    While today's Subs are vastly superior to their forebears, they are not 10, 20 or 30k watches in their utility sense.

    There are probably homages, such as the Steinharts, that are closer to the spirit of the original than a rose gold, or diamond encrusted version put out by the original maker.

    I am not singling out Rolex here, all watch makers seem to have gone down this route, and I'm not condemning anyone for it.

    My point is that to get the experience of a design icon, one doesn't necessarily need to have an original. When originals are far beyond the reach of most enthusiasts, a good homage can still deliver a large part of the experience at a fraction of the price.

    However, the power of the brand cannot be underestimated.

    For me, I have a TAG Heuer because as a child I was captivated by Formula 1, and that brand is irrevocably intertwined with it. TAG Heuer developed the basis for what is the modern timing system for all high performance motorsport.

    The Speedmaster heritage needs no run out here, but the Mark II, for me is the best one because it was designed with the astronauts feedback and aim of going beyond the moon to living and working in space. The tragedy of never being flight qualified by NASA just adds to the mystique. The Accutron Astronaut being the only watch that would work in the A-12/SR-71 cockpit assures it a place in the horological firmament,

    So then to Rolex, and brand is double edged sword.

    Despite its current F1 sponsorship, Rolex, as a brand, for me perosnally, holds no value at all. By the time I was exposed to it, it had already become the watch of ****. And I mean that in the Harry Enfield, 'Loadsa Money' sense, not that any one who aspires to owning one is, well, one.

    Despite early forays into aviation, exploration and certain types of motorsport, Rolex, for me, has never achieved what Heuer did in motorsport, Omega in space, or Breitling in aviation.

    For me, personally, I have no desire to own a Rolex.

    I fully acknowledge that this is my subjective, interpretive, experiential impression, and as such is one opinion among the multitude, but it is mine and has not changed after viewing and wearing Rolex watches. (A mate has a Hulk and another a gold Datejust).

    I'm always delighted to read and engage with people who derive great pleasure from a brand, a marque or a specific example of any watch, of whatever brand. I have a modern Sekonda my wife gave me, with a Seiko movement that is of tremendous sentimental value, though I am fully aware that value doubles every time I change the battery.

    I like the Elgin, because it looks and wears like a vintage Submariner. It also looks like a Rolex.

    Long-winded and verbose, this is my thinking and my reasoning, if that isn't too strong a term, for why I wanted a Sub homage, but still don't want, nor have ever contemplated, having a Rolex.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    Wow, the best summation of the topic I have as of yet read online. You do know of course there are the archie luxury types who will just say you're wearing shi11ers unless it's a (insert token of status), or that your a hater or worse still that you're not well off enough. Somehow I imagine it will fall on deaf ears.


    A recent purchase of my San Martin Gmt is a perfect example of what you have succinctly described above. It's a joy to wear, as I'm sure the bb Pro or rolex explorer is too but I have a life outside watches with other expensive passions as do you. That and I'm not stupid, they're massively overpriced and the AD system is imo reprehensible and laughable simultaneously.


    To just undo my point... I recently sold to mates a few steel dive willards with applied seiko logos to sterile dials. Likewise the king turtle prospex Ltd edits. They were all aware of what they're buying obvs. I made a small profit which I put towards buying the actual watch I was copying at six times the price and I'm delighted with it, despite needing serious regulating, crystal removing to align the chapter ring and likewise the bezel insert. I've even bought a z199 uncle seiko bracelet which I'm eagerly hoping lands today after paying the custom fees Tues...


    So my point being, homages can indeed spur you on to buy the oem. It's much like marrying someone blind, no thanks, want to know someone move in with them first!


    My last point is a line in the sand for me. My all time grail watch is the Speedmaster Moonwatch, a watch as a child I oogled in jewelers windows at. A buddy showed me his DH copy which frankly is amazing, on his wrist you'd be hard pressed to cry foul. But I've no intention of buying a copy, if I ever wear a speedmaster it will be real.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 Allwheelsgood


    Its OK, your secret relationship with Rolex will be safe with us..... as a closet admirer.

    I saw Rolex as a brand to aspire to in my innocence and naviety. I first got a Datejust and sold it on Donedeal in the early 90's. It was eventually replaced with a new Submariner Blusey in the mid 90's. It has been in my possession ever since, worn many times but never loved like I expected it to be. Recently tried to use it again by changing the bracelet to a RubberB strap.... no, still didnt work for me, consigned to the drawer again.... and now to be sold.

    My everyday watch was a Citizen promaster dive watch as I was scuba diving weekly at the time. (Dived with the Rolex a couple of times but could never justify the chance of losing it to the big blue.) Recently the Citizen died and has been replaced with a Sinn U1 black Teg which is my new daily and very happy I am.

    Watches are a strange relationship........ enjoy whatever makes you happy!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,067 ✭✭✭Lorddrakul


    @Allwheelsgood "Watches are a strange relationship... enjoy whatever makes you happy!"

    +1 to that!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,585 ✭✭✭✭893bet


    “That and I am not stupid”.


    Ironic given you criticise Archie types while simultaneously insulting every Rolex owner as being “stupid”……


    I am not a Rolex owner but by your definition I am certainly stupid! 😀. I chase the very highest quality I can afford.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Despite early forays into aviation, exploration and certain types of motorsport, Rolex, for me, has never achieved what Heuer did in motorsport, Omega in space, or Breitling in aviation.

    Rolex were always more a brand of suburban Britain and her once empire, that then went worldwide from the 60's on. They were quite a small outfit with a narrow range of offerings. Originally their "Oyster" was the core, with a few variations on that theme and tiny runs of chronographs and even tinier runs of (very nice)oddballs triple date moonphases and the like. The Datejust was their dress watch for the most part. Then the Explorer became their core and kinda remains that way even down to today. The Sub was/is basically an Explorer with a bezel. They were the "fashion" marketing brand long before the mechanical revival of the 80's and 90's, much more than a "great Swiss house" brand. It clearly worked and works very well too. They are the aspirational watch for the average person.

    But of course our perceptions skew things too. So the movement in your Accutron had far more actual space utility at the height of the Space Race than your Omega. And Omega, Longines and Zenith had far more aviation history than Breitling could dream of. Then again Patek brought out a pilot's watch to rave reviews while claiming a history in the type. A history that consisted of one pocketwatch and two wrist Hour Angle rippoffs to an exact prewar nazi German Air Ministry spec, that were never delivered. So... though they leave the air ministry bit out of their bumpf, as did IWC with their Big Pilot. Hey, buy the watch that helped blitzkreig! said no marketing guy ever. Well maybe in 60's Arrgentina... 😁

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    I apologise for insulting you. I should have been clearer, I would deem myself stupid if I paid what rolex are asking for a rolex these days as I consider them overinflated price wise. Much like tulipmania imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭scwazrh



    If you think about the Submariner, when it came out, it was not a luxury item

    Most tool items if around long enough will become luxury items .Its not really a negative against it.A land rover defender was the ultimate basic utilitarian vehicle and now a decent one will cost near €100k .Very common in clothing brands as well , north face jackets were not originally designed for teenagers to crave as a fashion statement.Yet none of us are driving around in homage land rover defenders but granted half the north face jackets are fake , a bit like putting a seiko logo on a sterile dial.

    However, the power of the brand cannot be underestimated.

    For me, personally, I have no desire to own a Rolex.

    I like the Elgin, because it looks and wears like a vintage Submariner. It also looks like a Rolex.

    So fair to say you like the watch just not the brand which i can understand .To use the north face example , I like a warm coat but Id never wear a north face one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,979 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    Thick AF !

    A clever man would have bought a San Martin and a fake seiko

    instead you went and bought a Patek and a Lange & Sohne....What where you thinking ???



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Deep Thought


    Interesting comments, I had a couple of Steinhart to see how I like the look ( compared to Rolex). I just didn’t like it.

    Likewise Seamaster.. just don’t like skeleton hands with a dot on top.

    I have a cracking Seiko SZSC004 and a Steinhart GP LE, both of which I have had for a while and won’t get rid of.

    I sold my IWC to meet other needs and now regret that.

    A good Flieger is next and that’s me done. ( well that’s the intention)

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