So is 'war porn' a thing now?

Ok...remembering eh 🙂

it’s probably the first war where anyone in eye shot can take a mobile device, smaller then their hand and broadcast the events to the globe, in real time and in ultra HD.

In all other wars we were reliant by and large on news agencies determining what we saw and when we saw it.

my only concern of this war will be the fallout endured by Irish citizens as a result of over 70,000 Ukranian people having arrived to be housed, financed and given medical cards, free public transport and at the end of the war the tens of thousands more who will be joining them here, all of whom will demand we give them the same..

dozens of wars and violent conflicts were happening on this planet before and now but none were ever as ‘fashionable’ or ‘cause worthy’ outside as the Ukranian conflict….

Does nobody find it odd that nobody ever suggested anyone give a tuppence fück about the gulf war, Vietnam war, Syrian civil war etc… barring ’ shît that’s terrible’ .. ‘ ok we’ll go for that pint, come on ‘

and now the war in Ukraine, over 3000 kilometres away, two time zones away (around the same physical distance between Dublin and New York) and the media are trying to constantly propagate the idea courtesy of very detailed and in depth coverage and ‘war porn’… that we’ve a duty to not just help but relinquish our wellbeing in the course of doing so.

the media has been at the forefront of this….

The only reason why we're so onboard, offering housing and freebies, is Ukrainians look like us.

If it was a war in a non white country, ah isnt it tragic... anyway, moving on...

The whole point of this Battlefield footage going into circulation, is that it get back to ordinary Russians and have the desired propaganda effect.

As far as I'm concerned, we're not seeing nearly enough of the footage of the destruction and mass killing perpetrated by Russians against civilian Ukraine. Nothing less than war crimes.

This could be all over months ago if the West had stopped prevaricating and supplied the armour, drones and offensive weapons systems that Ukraine have been asking for. Really, the Russians are so shite they should have been routed and we wouldn't have to see anymore new 'war porn' from this invasion again.

We take a bigger interest in it because it's in Europe - literally next door to several of our fellow EU member states.

Dublin - Kyiv is about 2500km, Dublin - New York is about 5000km... Two time zones away? So is Finland. You're talking rubbish tbh.

Typo re: the distance my friend…. The time zone comment is accurate..

but the point still stands , regardless of your opinion re: rubbish.

I can assure you….. nobody I’ve spoken with personally has the slightest care or interest for Ukranian people, over anyone else experiencing similar hardships….anywhere. Especially with some of the carry on from our government, NGO’s and other enablers that has compromised our own wellbeing… and will continue to do so for probably years….

War porn… not a nice term but it’s certainly interesting how many NGOs and independent media in league are amassed with quite graphic media from the war that must cost a lot… in terms of finances and risk…especially with such mass expert mainstream coverage.

be nice if every now and then if some of these people here, could put more effort into affording people, Irish people and (whisper it quietly) taxpayers with first hand news, information and visual documents of things going on that impact our lives and wellbeing… no wars, thankfully… but we could do with respectful coverage of our issues and challenges here. They are numerous and far reaching and very impactful.

of 11 headlines on rte news online earlier, 3 were related to ireland… Johnny Cooper, Covid and domestic violence….

very detailed coverage of war issues, and others internationally but hey….almost like we are being enabled to have our eyes peaked globally as opposed to our own problems here…. Which they should be first and foremost.l

If you don't mind I want to use your post as jumping off point to quote something which you've reminded me of:

In Confessions, Book VI, St. Augustine recounts the case of his friend Alypius, who “had been born in the same town as I [Carthage] but … was a bit younger than I.” Augustine admired Alypius, who shared his older friend’s interest in Christianity and was studying Scripture with him. “But in the whirlpool of Carthaginian fashion—where frivolous spectacles are hotly followed—he had been inveigled into the madness of the gladiatorial games.” Alypius “doted upon the circus,” Augustine writes, “and I was deeply grieved, for he seemed likely to cast away his very great promise—if, indeed, he had not already done so.” Alypius preceded Augustine to Rome. Augustine recounts the sequel in Chapter 13 of Book VI:

There he was carried away again with an incredible passion for the gladiatorial shows. For, although he had been utterly opposed to such spectacles and detested them, one day he met by chance a company of his acquaintances and fellow students returning from dinner; and, with a friendly violence, they drew him, resisting and objecting vehemently, into the amphitheater, on a day of those cruel and murderous shows. He protested to them: “Though you drag my body to that place and set me down there, you cannot force me to give my mind or lend my eyes to these shows. Thus I will be absent while present, and so overcome both you and them.” When they heard this, they dragged him on; [they were] probably interested to see whether he could do as he said. When they got to the arena … Alypius kept his eyes closed and forbade his mind to roam abroad after such wickedness. Would that he had shut his ears also! For when one of the combatants fell in the fight, a mighty cry from the whole audience stirred him so strongly that, overcome by curiosity … he opened his eyes and was struck with a deeper wound in his soul than the victim whom he desired to see had been in his body…. For, as soon as he saw the blood, he drank in with it a savage temper, and he did not turn away, but fixed his eyes on the bloody pastime, unwittingly drinking in the madness—delighted with the wicked contest and drunk with blood lust. He was now no longer the same man who came in, but was one of the mob [that] he [had come] into, a true companion of those who had brought him thither.

'sees them go on the missing list however'

False in the case of myself who did condemn the killing of Ukraine civilians

Lol

Tracked down by who?

Yourself?

You're going way off the deep end mate. Take a breather. Take the afternoon off.

Love you dude @Cluedo Monopoly ,

Spectacular write up ...

Great work comrade 💂

Nah not a hero ....

But I do trigger snowflakes...

I agree ... but Russia's 2022-2023 regime does not work for the benefit of Russia ... it is wellknown that the Russian Mafia have infiltrated every level of the current Russian regime peaking in the Covid years ... what is being done you can be sure benefits only them and certainly not Russia or its people ... Ukraine have no choice in this and have to fight I agree ... Russia's endemic mafia corruption and their heartless attitude needs to be ended ... until it is you have a superpower working for criminal corrupt enterprises ...

None of these wars are basic ... they are all very agenda driven and never done for the best interests of the country or the people ... Putin's regime esp. the 2022-2023 version works for the Russian Mafia and is there to make them ... not Russia ... rich ...

I am hugely interested in Irish current affairs. I knew enough about Trump and Boris to not waste any time listening to them. I stand by my opinion. None of it was countered which is interesting.