So is 'war porn' a thing now?

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120055889#Comment_120055889

Nah not a hero ....

But I do trigger snowflakes...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120055802#Comment_120055802

So, someone that doesn’t keep up to date in current affairs wants to be taken seriously… on current affairs. Having had your head in the sand for the last decade do you realise how massive the Russian embassy in Dublin is?

Again with the projection on here… you’re views of the posters here being disingenuous most likely reflects your own views.

Now, back to sticking your head in the sand for another 10 years with you.

lumphammer2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120055658#Comment_120055658

I agree ... but Russia's 2022-2023 regime does not work for the benefit of Russia ... it is wellknown that the Russian Mafia have infiltrated every level of the current Russian regime peaking in the Covid years ... what is being done you can be sure benefits only them and certainly not Russia or its people ... Ukraine have no choice in this and have to fight I agree ... Russia's endemic mafia corruption and their heartless attitude needs to be ended ... until it is you have a superpower working for criminal corrupt enterprises ...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120055672#Comment_120055672

None of these wars are basic ... they are all very agenda driven and never done for the best interests of the country or the people ... Putin's regime esp. the 2022-2023 version works for the Russian Mafia and is there to make them ... not Russia ... rich ...

Yurt2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120056006#Comment_120056006

And the agenda is basic.

Irredentist fascism. This mess was signposted for years. It's a fascist creep on a landgrab.

Basic as it gets.

Cluedo Monopoly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120055912#Comment_120055912

I am hugely interested in Irish current affairs. I knew enough about Trump and Boris to not waste any time listening to them. I stand by my opinion. None of it was countered which is interesting.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120056203#Comment_120056203

Tell me how does one counter the opinion people pro Ukrainian are disingenuous? Apart from pointing out it is likely projecting. In a way, you are partially correct… I SHOULD have pointed out it was mean spirited (again, projection) and ludicrous to think that many people are false, whereas, presumably, you think the pro Russians are just genuine.

Don’t worry, you’re completely transparent.

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120056242#Comment_120056242

If you (or any of the holier than holy posters) really cared about the Ukrainians you’d have found better ways to help them than spouting grand speeches in an online forum. Of course most people don’t care, and simply use the situation to stylise themselves as some “honourable” allies with the poor downtrodden underdog. You are not making a difference by chastising everyone whose opinion differs from yours.

Gatling

Oddly enough we had a putin admiration thread that ran for several years on here,we had people lyrically masturbating over putin and his strongman approach and how he was going to stick it to nato ,

Now he's invaded ukraine for the Second time in 9 years And the same people expected victory parades through Kiev and the defeat of the corrupt neo Nazi's in Ukraine,the same people popped up to tell us about the Azoz battalions,and so on and so on .

What's these people's solution, ukraine surrenders ,and be banned from joining the eu and Nato,and have Russian troops occupy Ukraine to protect them from foreign invaders,

They call it being neutral.

I call it cowardice, remember we don't want to escalate it ,I want peace but ukraine needs to be punished...

I've been posting on ukraine for over 9 years every forum and every thread, I warned that they would invade again, apparently that's makes me a war monger,

Everything i said would happen has happened and is still happening, I also have been saying for years they would be the one's to give putin a bloody nose if given the support ,

And here we are 11 months into the second invasion of Ukraine and over 100,000 orcs have been smashed and anilated over 1000 taken out in a single strike over new years ,

Others wanted surrender and occupation I wanted the Ukrainans to stand and fight to the death,

Which is exactly what they are doing

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120056309#Comment_120056309

I have given to local charities, my home town in particular that supported Ukrainians. Groceries, underwear for men if that’s not too specific for you Others have given to Ukrainian ammo funds. I’ve not done that. My home is not big enough to house anyone extra - I would if it were possible.

But, to your point, do you not understand how debate works? Why are you on boards? Is it just to make pronouncements and not engage? How strange.

As to people “not caring” - do you not realise you are simply projecting?

You might want to look into why you are indifferent to child rapists.

evolvingtipperary101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058276467/so-is-war-porn-a-thing-now

If you've seen something, anything, or conceived of something, from aliens to clowns playing pool to knives to jazz to burping, you can bet your bottom dollar people are sexualizing it. Human beings will sexualise anything.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120056982#Comment_120056982

Sounds like an interesting social life going on in Tipperary. 😅

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120049723#Comment_120049723

You think this is the first post internet/smartphone war ?

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120056965#Comment_120056965

The problem with your type of “debate” is that you can’t accept any opinion that differs from your own and go on the attack right away. This isn’t a personal dig at you but directed at several posters here. At the end of the day this is a war between 2 countries which does not affect you personally, so maybe lighten up a bit if someone doesn’t feel as aggrieved.

I know why I am indifferent, and it’s because I can see things more objectively unlike others.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120057020#Comment_120057020

“I know why I am indifferent, and it’s because I can see things more objectively unlike others.”

Props on the most psychopathic/self regarding post I’ve possibly read on here.

Likewise, this might be an alien concept to you, but I have this thing called empathy- I know, such a burden - I can empathise with a nation of people being raped, murdered, tortured and stolen from.

Do you see why it might be you that’s out of step here?

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120057360#Comment_120057360

You clearly don’t even realise that there are different types of empathy, which turns your response into a joke. Please elaborate how and why you can empathise because I am interested.

”A burden”. Please…I am not the one who is out of line here. I am the one who isn’t.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120057905#Comment_120057905

Well, for starters tell me why you do not have empathy with Ukrainians… is it because as Fr Ted would say, “They are far away”?

I get why people are pro Russia, they are drawn to ‘strong men’. I don’t agree with it, but it’s a known phenomenon. But, to not have an interest in Ukraine, and their plight, is bizarre. I also understand that this may not be within your sphere of empathy from a psychological point of view, but please do not tell me it’s pointless me having an interest in challenging people that are pro Russian.

I think you were attempting to affect an air of superiority telling me it was pointless, but it just comes across as bizarre... especially on a discussion forum. Again, this may be a revelation to you.

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120058072#Comment_120058072

I’d understand if you wanted to challenge pro-Russian posters, but I genuinely didn’t see any during our exchange.

As for “empathy”: I don’t feel any allegiance to either Ukraine or Russia, they can flatten each others’ territories and take over all they want. Maybe we are just fundamentally different, but I can’t understand why you’d be taking such an interest in one side when it doesn’t affect you.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120058152#Comment_120058152

But, it does affect me. I’m not built to look away. I’m vehemently anti Russian in the thread this thread references.

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120058171#Comment_120058171

But how does it affect you? This is a genuine question because I don’t have this feeling so I can’t understand it.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120058198#Comment_120058198

It’s an impotent rage that we have Ukrainian men, women and children suffering horrendously at the hands of Russia and a feeling of disdain for those explicitly and implicitly supporting Russia’s diabolical actions.

But bring it closer to home, say the British attacked the 3 ROI Ulster counties and committed atrocities against these people would you simply not care?

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120058220#Comment_120058220

No, I can’t see why I would care apart from the additional financial burden this would cause. But I’m not Irish so I don’t have any national loyalties at play here.

Ok maybe we are just different and need to agree to disagree because I can’t see things from your pov.

vixdname

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120019068#Comment_120019068

Cant see anything wrong with some people enjoying seeing just desserts being dished out to a military who are engaged in bombing innocent civilians, raping women & children and who every second day have their dear leader threaten the world with nuclear annihilation if hes not allowed retain sovereign land hes stole from his neighboring country.

I find it a bit strange also that you get upset when the perpetrators of the pre mentioned war crimes have "Vile Insults" aimed at them but you turn a blind eye to the atrocities they've committed.

I think you seriously need to recalibrate your moral compass.

vixdname

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120058152#Comment_120058152

But it could affect everyone in Europe if Putins empirical endeavors arent well and truly quashed.

If he was allowed march straight in to Ukraine and take over, whats to say he doesnt decided to stop there but wants to chance his arm moving further west, this isnt beyond the realms of reality, history teaches that from our not too distant passed.

As for "Empathy", you dont have to have any allegiance with any one to be able to have empathy for them when you see them being unfairly treated or invaded and slaughtered....its empathy for you fellow human and the shocking situation they find themselves in through no fault of their own.

If you dont get it than it says a lot about you and your character, and not in a good way.

CalamariFritti

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120058478#Comment_120058478

I'm not a Russia fan at all, I just hate the hypocrisy. Couldn't have sad it better than this poster, here.

In essence nobody here thinks it's got anything to do with them with what western governments did and do in other countries like Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, countless others. Even though we ourselves elected those governments into power in supposedly free and democratic elections. Whereas people from countries where they supposedly don't have free and democratic elections, where they have no say who's in power, they deserve to die for the actions of their governments.

I don't think there is anything wrong with my moral compass.

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120058483#Comment_120058483

Not everyone has the same levels of empathy, it’s not like we can pick and chose. Looking at some of the comments in this thread I have to conclude that this empathy is also being used to fuel a d justify hatred. It’s a bit ironic that people can’t see this themselves

breezy1985

I said, war, huh (good God, y'all)

What is it good for?

Wackin off your mickey, just say it again

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120058752#Comment_120058752

You have a point re Libya and Iraq - although, let's face it neither regime were saints.

But, Afghanistan - what do you think the West did wrong here? It was more good than evil here... ultimately they didn't feel like they could maintain it, but it gave 20 odd years of somewhat normality to the Afghan people... they just didn't have the wherewithal to sustain it after they were left to their own devices.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120059002#Comment_120059002

Someone that's self admitted to being limited in the empathy area, probably not the best person to assign motives to others. It just further highlights your inadequacies.

Jequ0n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120059337#Comment_120059337

On the contrary. I can see the farce for what it is because I am not blinded by the “impotent rage”. But I can accept that we just have a different view here.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120059380#Comment_120059380

We certainly do. I can see that children being raped is rageful. Just because they are not of my country. I think that sums up your other assertions as nonsense... nonsense you see as 'not being blinded'.

For context, what DO you empathise with?

Ireland is very lucky we didn't have America come uninvited to help sort out out war up North for two decades, level the place into the ground, and then when things aren't rosey when they suddenly leave, have Americans who don't know a thing about the place sit and ponder at our lack of wherewithal to sustain the normality their soldiers gave us.

I find it bizarre listening to the way people talk about these places. 20 years of normality? What.

Iran was a normal place until America did that whole fancy thing it does called regime change and messed it up. Schoolgirls are dying today as a result of that, and not a single American alive would ever consider themselves remotely responsible for that, even though it was their government that they voted for that did it.

This isn't whataboutery. If people in Ireland are loving these videos, after letting the US use Shannon to commit their war crimes in the Middle East, then they need to have a good look at themselves.