Season 14; Russell T Davies Returns

FunLover18 · 24-12-2022 11:52pm

It'll just be a trailer I'd imagine

fritzelly · 25-12-2022 2:41am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120032476#Comment_120032476

Probably - still good to have proper DW back

Agent Coulson · 25-12-2022 7:34pm

Trailer

https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/1607079827781083136?s=20

fritzelly · 25-12-2022 7:47pm

That looks like its gonna be a whole lotta fun

TheValeyard · 27-12-2022 1:12pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120033516#Comment_120033516

Well, we havent had that in a long while!

pixelburp · 28-12-2022 8:10am

Watched the trailer and was a realllllly weird experience. Like some unearthed season 4 Episode we hadn't heard about.

I'm not there yet, still haven't restarted my hype. Tennant seemed weirdly muted in that trailer, and having still not watched Whitaker's last 2 stories worried I won't get back the enthusiasm.

corkie · 02-04-2023 7:52pm

https://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/henry-cavill-cast-as-new-master-in-doctor-who-98280.htm

As the above was published yesterday, I don't believe it.

pixelburp · 02-04-2023 8:27pm

Given I hadn't seen any outlet report it, I would presume yes, it's an April Fools.

FunLover18 · 05-05-2023 6:58pm

Jonathan Groff has joined the new season in an unspecified role.

pixelburp · 14-05-2023 10:11am

New trailer

https://youtu.be/WDi_OQxVqMY

pixelburp · 07-06-2023 7:22pm

Of all the companions to bring back?

https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/1666490209792319509

Agent Coulson · 23-06-2023 9:32pm

Episode titles revealed

https://youtu.be/m3_Im5zMDH8

fritzelly · 23-06-2023 9:36pm

Can't wait for the two of them to be back

RopeDrink · 07-08-2023 11:48am

I never had a problem with Mel (Bonnie), even though she was hired to scream in tune with the show's cliffhanger. It's a shame to hear so much preemptive hatred for a character whose only real offence was to not be given much to do (and testing people's eardrums now and then).

Having seen the occasional person reacting to Classic Who with no prior experience (and unclouded by past politics), quite a few seem to like Mel due to being an optimistic spitfire who doesn't act like a yes-girl.

What they choose to do with her in the present will be much more important. Having said that, I've not been keeping up with the show in years, so I'm not chomping at the bit to see what happens.

pixelburp · 07-08-2023 1:42pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120948758#Comment_120948758

Mel is yet another example of a hated character saved by the Big Finish audios; alongside the much maligned 6th Doctor himself, whose edges were sanded off to the extent that there's a reasonable argument to be made the BF 6th is one of the greats. Mel also has the grating aspects sanded down (audio dramas perhaps not best served by someone screaming into one's headphones)

RopeDrink · 17-08-2023 8:24pm

Unfortunately, "saved" is arguably too strong a word. While Big Finish is certainly known and popular, not every Whovian consumes it, and the vast majority of response to Mel's return was primarily negative or neutral (given she came and went during one of the least watched periods of the show's entire history, and quite a lot who did see her at the time likely have a negative impression by default). By extension, not everyone has had the pleasure of getting the 'edge softened' via the audio work.

As mentioned, I've noticed quite a few people dipping their toes into Classic Who and enjoying Mel - some even being upset when she leaves at the end of S24. I have never had an issue with Mel - helped by being an old McCoy-era fan - and as usual, Big Finish - not to mention cast appearances on the BoxSets (eg. behind the sofa, interviews and documentaries, etc) certainly help to soften the situation - but sadly, the response still seems primarily neutral (at best), so a lot will depend on how her return is handled.

Regardless, I'm very curious to see what happens next.

corkie · 25-08-2023 4:19pm

https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/doctor-who-season-14-release.html

Is this just clickbait article? Is BBC just altering the release date for it?

fritzelly · 25-08-2023 4:35pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121026295#Comment_121026295

Clickbait - nothing confirmed yet

pixelburp · 23-09-2023 9:25pm

New, fairly splashy trailer released.

https://youtu.be/UTRam_4a4cw?si=KO0FIoRZUgL1wE2B

fritzelly · 23-09-2023 9:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121148459#Comment_121148459

Looks frigging amazing - can't wait to have proper Doctor Who back

Even the TARDIS ran away - lmao

pixelburp · 25-09-2023 7:04am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121148668#Comment_121148668

Wonder was it too soon for some Disney bucks to be spent on the production.

Agent Coulson · 13-10-2023 3:03pm

The new Theme for the 60th anniversary

The speical episodes are due to air next month.

November 23th is the date of the 60th anniversary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rizcm_Q4l2U

fritzelly · 13-10-2023 3:13pm

Like the sound of that

pixelburp · 13-10-2023 3:36pm

Wish they'd take the plunge and do a fully electronic score again: it's weird too cos Delia Derbyshire is seen as such an unsung pioneer of electronic music, yet her most famous piece almost never gets that treatment anymore. And given the desire to give voice to forgotten female pioneers, it seems like a curious oversight.

Big loud orchestras are a cute way of implying the blockbuster tone the show aims for now - but IMO they just never reached those heights of the super-creepy, haunting original tune they tweak through the 60s & 70. Or indeed the 80s version, which just went pure electronic and think has its place in the show's heart.

That original theme was just pure mystery; a little bit exciting, a little bit scary. Even the 80s version had that, all digital and alien sounding. Now it just has bombast, but no soul IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fnzcAFy8d8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKFueZz5Cy4

Agent Coulson · 25-10-2023 7:32pm

Starts the 25th of November

https://twitter.com/bbcdoctorwho/status/1717247269014061176?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Agent Coulson · 31-10-2023 11:03pm

Spin off called Tales of the TARDIS for the iPlayer

Doctor Who has confirmed a new spin-off show, with former cast members set to return for a special adventure.

The BBC is preparing for the return of the iconic sci-fi show next month, and has now announced Tales of the TARDIS, a six-part series that “reunites beloved classic Doctor Who duos, as they board a very special TARDIS on a nostalgic voyage through space and time”.

The cast for the series includes former Doctors Peter Davison, Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy. Maureen O’Brien, Peter Purves, Frazer Hines, Wendy Padbury, Katy Manning, Daniel Anthony, Janet Fielding, Nicola Bryant and Sophie Aldred will also reprise their respective roles.

The series, which will launch as part of The Whoniverse on November 1, will see each episode focus on a different duo, with new footage being merged with classic episodes to create an all-new experience.........

https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/a45689265/doctor-who-spin-off-tales-of-the-tardis/

Inviere · 06-11-2023 8:49am

I fell off of the Doctor Who train when Capaldi took over (nothing to do with him, just took a break and never went back.) Is this new season a complete reboot (I seen online that it's being referred to as Season 1)?

pixelburp · 06-11-2023 9:43am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121330665#Comment_121330665

Nope, not a reboot at all; just a bit of a mystery why Whitaker's Doctor regenerated into David Tenant

The answer is obviously: cos the show is floundering and the feeling is a return to RTD is somehow the fix, but I'm sure there'll be Sci-Fi bollix established. Though IIRC it is possible for the Doctor to return to previous regenerations.

Stark · 18-11-2023 1:02pm

Children in need special with 14th doctor. Was quite good I thought. https://www.facebook.com/DoctorWho/videos/1654794201712475/

pixelburp · 18-11-2023 3:30pm

YouTube link

https://youtu.be/Jn0yd2eWNm4?si=3GuW2ZmKf8o3-w_v

corkie · 18-11-2023 9:42pm

"I LIKE IT" :-)

https://cultbox.co.uk/news/julian-bleach-reprises-his-doctor-who-role-as-davros-for-children-in-need

Mr Castavillian (Mawaan Rizwan)

TheValeyard · 18-11-2023 9:48pm

That was fairly funny. Enjoyed that.

Hopefully RTD can repair the Chinnall damage.

I'd have to disagree with an above comment. Peter Capaldis Doctor may have some of the finest episodes of Doctor Who in its history like 'Heaven Sent'

TheValeyard · 18-11-2023 9:48pm

And could I possibly make a fcuking appearance please!!!!

pixelburp · 19-11-2023 9:51am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121385790#Comment_121385790

Davies already said in an interview he won't be unsetting things like the Timeless Child, so that's staying canon.

TheValeyard · 19-11-2023 10:04am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121387077#Comment_121387077

Read that alright. Buts all timey wimey wobbly wobbly, so we shall see.

silverharp · 19-11-2023 10:19am

I dont get the Davros / wheelchair connection , in all the time I watched Dr Who, I never once made that association. jesus, some weirdos would find their own shadow offensive

bren2001 · 19-11-2023 10:28am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121387152#Comment_121387152

Are people offended that Davros isn't in a wheelchair in this skit? Jesus Christ.

That was pretty funny and makes me pretty optimistic for the RTD II era.

silverharp · 19-11-2023 10:33am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121387168#Comment_121387168

But does it mean if there is a Dalek themed series , Davros will just be normal dude walking around?

pixelburp · 19-11-2023 10:42am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121387168#Comment_121387168

I haven't seen a single credible, prominent outlet or individual making stink about Davros. This is a nothing issue. Maybe some randos on Twitter but as always, dig long enough there and you'll find anything there.

Stark · 19-11-2023 12:14pm

I'm quite curious now. What's the complaint? It is as pixelburp said, did long enough there and you'll find any weird take you can think of.

pixelburp · 19-11-2023 12:30pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121387486#Comment_121387486

Presumably something about Davros not being in a wheelchair is ableist or somesuch, if I had to guess, which can only be either sarcastic satire or some total nobody pleb on Twitter dredged up by a bad faith media outlet looking for clicks about Woke Gone Mad.

bren2001 · 19-11-2023 12:33pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121387538#Comment_121387538

It's the exact opposite, i believe.

RTD said Davros in the wheelchair is abelist. It's a negative portrayal that people who end up in wheelchairs become evil.

I regret asking in the thread! The skit was fun. Roll on the next Dr Who episode.

silverharp · 19-11-2023 12:41pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121387486#Comment_121387486

It must be important in the bubble Davies inhabits

https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-davros-change-newsupdate/

"Speaking on new BBC Three companion series Doctor Who Unleashed, Davies said: "We had long conversations about bringing Davros back, because he's a fantastic character, [but] time and society and culture and taste has moved on. And there's a problem with the Davros of old in that he's a wheelchair user, who is evil. And I had problems with that. And a lot of us on the production team had problems with that, of associating disability with evil. And trust me, there's a very long tradition of this.

"I'm not blaming people in the past at all, but the world changes and when the world changes, Doctor Who has to change as well.

"So we made the choice to bring back Davros without the facial scarring and without the wheelchair – or his support unit, which functions as a wheelchair.

"I say, this is how we see Davros now, this is what he looks like. This is 2023. This is our lens. This is our eye. Things used to be black and white, they're not in black and white anymore, and Davros used to look like that and he looks like this now, and that we are absolutely standing by.""

pixelburp · 19-11-2023 12:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121387555#Comment_121387555

Ah lordy. RTD has come out with a few comments that have been a bit Lady Doth Protest Too Much; not touching that subject either but hey ho. Not like I'm gonna watch the new Who's so I'll back off lol

Mormegil · 19-11-2023 1:28pm

So how long till we get this statement from RTD?

"We had long conversations about bringing the Daleks back, because they are fantastic characters, [but] time and society and culture and taste has moved on. And there's a problem with the Daleks of old in that they are wheelchair users, who are evil. And I had problems with that. And a lot of us on the production team had problems with that, of associating disability with evil. And trust me, there's a very long tradition of this.

"I'm not blaming people in the past at all, but the world changes and when the world changes, Doctor Who has to change as well.

"So we made the choice to bring back the Daleks without the mutation and without the wheelchair – or their support units, which functions as a wheelchair.

"I say, this is how we see the Daleks now, this is what they looks like. This is 2023. This is our lens. This is our eye. Things used to be black and white, they're not in black and white anymore, and the Daleks used to look like that and they looks like this now, and that we are absolutely standing by.""

Stark · 19-11-2023 2:09pm

Oh dear. I thought his reasoning for not showing the 14th Doctor in the 13th Doctor's costume was nonsense also.

TheValeyard · 19-11-2023 2:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121387575#Comment_121387575

That's a bit silly isn't it?

He's a genius madman who happened to be wheelchair bound and scarred due to his actions during the planetary war. It's hardly having a go at wheelchair users or associating them with evil.

Only ones that come to mind are Doctor No (I think) and MODOK.

When it comes to wheelchair users, first thing that comes to mind is Professor X.

pixelburp · 19-11-2023 2:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121387893#Comment_121387893

Yeah, completely and what I was alluding to: it was especially stupid considering Whittaker's costume was chosen precisely because it would be androgynous enough for cosplayers and boys who wanted to dress up, but felt self conscious about it. Kinda flies in the face of that simple bit of common sense for the sake of presentational concern.

Mind you. Rtd has also said only gay people should play gay characters cos it's a unique experience, so I've questioned his social judgement for a while now.

silverharp · 19-11-2023 3:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121387916#Comment_121387916

I never thought wheelchair or disabled, more that its a life support system and fitting for the creator of a race of cyborgs, by Davies's standard, Darth Vader would be pRoBlEmAtiC , Davies could have taken it a different route and change the life of a wheelchair bound actor

Agent Coulson · 19-11-2023 5:52pm

Why not give the role to an actual wheelchair user.

Here is an English actor/writer/director who is in a wheelchair who could have played the role.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2669710/

Season 14; Russell T Davies Returns

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