Early start to Christmas festivities in Rathkeale (THREADBANS IN OP)

I'd see nothing.

Pavee point et al. seems to do no favours for the people they are meant to advocate for. they perpetually tell the travelling community they are victims, discriminated against by the settled community and fuel a us and them mentality. They never encourage accountability and actual name it for what it is thus all of the travelling community become tarred with the same brush. All the while, the traveller community are imploding from within, with high rates of suicide, domestic violence, early mortality etc etc.

Just wait until the lawyers and accountants get juiced up.

Saving themselves for NYE.

From the Indo:

 man charged with causing criminal damage to a caravan and to a car in Rathkeale, Co Limerick, has been granted bail after his mother provided an independent €5,000 cash surety at Limerick District Court.

5k cash stumped up just like that.

She must have a good job.

the other ramming incident in Patrickswell this week was different traveller feud in case we get mixed up with all the traveller feuds - mayhem in County Limerick

St. Vincent De Paul usually stomp up for these court fines. Well known throughout County Limerick.

Credit Unions are another source (but "arrears" are normallty written off at year's end). Works out cheaper than chasing down a futile cause.

P.S. i'm not making this up..!!!!

Well, the poster said “P.S. i'm not making this up..!!!!” at the end of the post. So it must be 100% true, and no further evidence is needed.

Reading articles about court appearances related to these limerick incidents, in both cases all were granted free legal aid.

We need a legal aid system similar to the Nursing home fair deal scheme, where the HSE means test you (property, money) and you pay % based on your assets. Legal aid should means test based on cars, vans, property (including caravans), clawing back a % of social welfare payments each week for a number of years. This could act as a deterent. Right now, being charged, court appearance, convicted, suspended sentences, small fines, etc. Seems to be the norm for these people, no skin of their noses. They dont need a clean sheet as they wont be applying for jobs, for loans (cash is king) or work visa's to US, Canada, Oz etc. There is no financial cost for them. I heard from a court clerk that its near impossible to collect the fines from them as they claim poverty.

I appealed a parking fine 2 years ago, it got rejected. I then got a letter from local council to say I would be issued acourt summons witin 14 days and that I would have a criminal conviction if found guilty of breaking a parking law. I kid you not. I paid that day. I'm an easy target, tax payer, fixed address, etc..

Now if the council had taken a photo that day of transit van parked in the same place registered to a halting site, or known traveller family, would they have pursued the parking fine ??? I bet my house that they would not.

As someone already said, customs turn a blind eye to UK reg cars going around for months. My french friend had a car with a french reg, within a month of moving to Ireland, he was stopped by gardai, who reported him to customs, who then came to his place of work a week later telling him he had so many days to clear the car and get an irish reg.

*slow hand clap*

At that rate, will it be a century's time that they will be on a parity with settled levels of education?

The sooner their culture of ignorance breaks down, the better.

Same here. Never a brown cent from me again. And was actually naive and foolish enough to help with their collections (only twice i may add) in my young and innocent days. Was shocked beyond belief when some relatives and friends who work for both SVP and Credit Union pointed out the carry on to me. Absolutely no reason to doubt these claims from the people involved.

Like "Juran" has pointed out above, until these folk get hit in their pockets/assets little will change. Wouldn't hold my breath though as our friends in the legal system (sorry legal industry) would lose a valuable cash cow.

On another note, since people have now been charged with the Patrickswell incident and the majority involved had just left/thrown out of a pub, has anyone involved been also charged with drink or drug driving.??

Drink and drug driving is only for non travellers.

There was so much mayhem and blood on the streets of patrickswell the other night it was travellers murdering passing shoppers the guards (that had to come out from limerick ) were worried about rather than motoring offences which these people never adhere to anyways .