Early start to Christmas festivities in Rathkeale (THREADBANS IN OP)

maebee

St. Vincent de Paul pay for court fines? Really? I never heard of this.

Gregor Samsa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120030544#Comment_120030544

Well, the poster said “P.S. i'm not making this up..!!!!” at the end of the post. So it must be 100% true, and no further evidence is needed.

Atlantic Dawn

Would the court service be subject to implementing money laundering legislation if the bail was €10k and the mother brought that in cash?.

Juran

Reading articles about court appearances related to these limerick incidents, in both cases all were granted free legal aid.

We need a legal aid system similar to the Nursing home fair deal scheme, where the HSE means test you (property, money) and you pay % based on your assets. Legal aid should means test based on cars, vans, property (including caravans), clawing back a % of social welfare payments each week for a number of years. This could act as a deterent. Right now, being charged, court appearance, convicted, suspended sentences, small fines, etc. Seems to be the norm for these people, no skin of their noses. They dont need a clean sheet as they wont be applying for jobs, for loans (cash is king) or work visa's to US, Canada, Oz etc. There is no financial cost for them. I heard from a court clerk that its near impossible to collect the fines from them as they claim poverty.

I appealed a parking fine 2 years ago, it got rejected. I then got a letter from local council to say I would be issued acourt summons witin 14 days and that I would have a criminal conviction if found guilty of breaking a parking law. I kid you not. I paid that day. I'm an easy target, tax payer, fixed address, etc..

Now if the council had taken a photo that day of transit van parked in the same place registered to a halting site, or known traveller family, would they have pursued the parking fine ??? I bet my house that they would not.

As someone already said, customs turn a blind eye to UK reg cars going around for months. My french friend had a car with a french reg, within a month of moving to Ireland, he was stopped by gardai, who reported him to customs, who then came to his place of work a week later telling him he had so many days to clear the car and get an irish reg.

Quitelife

The law is only for the law abiding , these people get everything for free !!

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120022765#Comment_120022765

*slow hand clap*

At that rate, will it be a century's time that they will be on a parity with settled levels of education?

The sooner their culture of ignorance breaks down, the better.

Padraig Mor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120030544#Comment_120030544

SVP pay for all sorts of stuff for scumbags. Wouldn't give them the steam off my piss.

washman3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120030933#Comment_120030933

Same here. Never a brown cent from me again. And was actually naive and foolish enough to help with their collections (only twice i may add) in my young and innocent days. Was shocked beyond belief when some relatives and friends who work for both SVP and Credit Union pointed out the carry on to me. Absolutely no reason to doubt these claims from the people involved.

Like "Juran" has pointed out above, until these folk get hit in their pockets/assets little will change. Wouldn't hold my breath though as our friends in the legal system (sorry legal industry) would lose a valuable cash cow.

On another note, since people have now been charged with the Patrickswell incident and the majority involved had just left/thrown out of a pub, has anyone involved been also charged with drink or drug driving.??

Liath Luachra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120030795#Comment_120030795

Many who do 3rd level, tend to focus on human rights/equality and so remain within the oppressed/victim cycle, working within the NGO/community/charity sector.

There seem to be little reinforcement of the Education Welfare Act, whereby if child misses 20 or more days of school, the school is obliged to report the absence. An unhealthy mix of the bigotry of low expectations and parents disregard of education. Many halting sites and individual homes will have a taxi bus collect and drop off to/from school - ironically continuous enabling has disabled the community further.

Quitelife

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120031109#Comment_120031109

Drink and drug driving is only for non travellers.

There was so much mayhem and blood on the streets of patrickswell the other night it was travellers murdering passing shoppers the guards (that had to come out from limerick ) were worried about rather than motoring offences which these people never adhere to anyways .

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120030795#Comment_120030795

I could only imagine your reaction if travellers completing third level education was halving every five years.

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120031111#Comment_120031111

You're right about travellers turning up working in the social care field. I've worked with quite a few of them , incredibly motivated and driven.

I'm not sure what your talking about with the oppressed/victim comment.

Liath Luachra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120031215#Comment_120031215

I've no doubt they're motivated and driven - it requires a sustained effort to maintain hypervigilance on the actions and words of the settled community and at the same time reinforce a potent omerta on the actions of the traveller community. Who was driving (literally) the oppression in Rathkeale last week? who did it primarily impact - their own community; lack of education, domestic violence, damage to their property, misogyny, etc etc all enforced and conducted from within the community. Until this is discussed in an adult manner, the idea of oppression is reinforced, whilst ignoring who the oppressors might actually be.

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120031203#Comment_120031203

Big whoop... it should have happened years ago. Most every other ethnicity that comes here doesn't seem to have a belief that schooling is optional especially ones from developing countries.

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120031360#Comment_120031360

How bout that for a big whoop.

Young Traveller who graduated from Garda training hailed as 'inspirational'

Star Bingo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120031360#Comment_120031360

I’ve witnessed a certain kin thinkin out loud aka uploading themselves to the universe to declare other. One going so far as saying schooling here is child abuse, and why should they have Irish history foisted on them anyway going on to call on all Indians; Africans and Asians to converge on the wee islanders and addresss it.

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120031832#Comment_120031832

Yawn. One in what, a hundred years, since the gardai were founded?

Lots of useless bastards join too, pretty low bar tbh. We have a ticker tape parade if one of them becomes something mundane like a university lecturer in something other than discrimination studies.

Ten of Swords

@thinkabouit threadbanned

Mad_maxx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120031215#Comment_120031215

Many of the travellers who have graduated from university like Sindy Joyce work in the victim industry complex, she does nothing bar preaching a message to her brethren that everything wrong in her - their community is the fault of society, she’s a grievance studies graduate and victim industry hustler

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120032298#Comment_120032298

What's the victim industry complex ?

Mad_maxx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120032357#Comment_120032357

Oh it covers everyone from Pavee point to the NWC to the endless list of asylum seeker representative organisations and not forgetting the list as long as you’re arm of social sciences university faculty’s

Jizique

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120032416#Comment_120032416

One could make an argument that social sciences have no place in a university

mazdamiatamx5

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120032459#Comment_120032459

Disagree. It shouldn't be allowed to call itself a science but then again social science faculties by and large are not situated within the real science departments in unis.

Larbre34

Yes social studies have a place in University, because they dovetail with economics, demographics, environment and planning, history, geography, languages, religious studies and lots more.

But no, the name science is inaccurate to refer to them, social studies or social research should suffice.

Deebles McBeebles

All gone quite here since the last time I was on but just to say congratulations to everyone involved. We managed to speak about travellers without the thread getting shut down. This may well be an AH first. Bualadh bos.

Sultan of Bling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120065342#Comment_120065342

We'll in fairness, there was nothing said about the pieces of filth that wasn't true.

May they all burn in hell.

Juran

https://www.bangordailynews.com/2023/01/03/news/bangor/flight-diverted-bangor-passengers-unruly-behavior-xoasq1i29i/

All quiet indeed as they may be on their winter sun holidays at the minute.

I may be wrong, with the double-barrel Irish names, but I suspect these two lads arrested in the US when their holiday flight back to Manchester might be from the ethnic culture crew. If they are, they'll see how real courts and justice system works when they appear before a Judge in a Maine court. Very different to the mickey mouse Irish and British 'slap on the wrist + €250 fine' court system when found guilty of brawls, fighting, etc. They could be facing 20 years prison. since 9/11, the US takes aviation offences really serious. Its up there with attempted murder.