I am Proud of Being a Conspiracy Theorist

banie01 · 22-12-2022 02:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025136#Comment_120025136

There was nothing abusive in my post that you quoted. There was an example of the OPs notion of what an "idiot deal-breaker is" and his own OP.

If you feel there was abuse?

Report it or lay off the back seat modding.

bad2thebone · 22-12-2022 02:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025255#Comment_120025255

It's just a bit of banter about the sealions. It's not meant to be offensive.

So it's an us and them scenario so.

Why do you post here ?

Dohnjoe · 22-12-2022 02:28PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025277#Comment_120025277

Conspiracies happen all the time, open a newspaper. Everyone enjoys reading about them, I've just finished a book about a real-world conspiracy, literally titled "Conspiracy".

For the more fantastical far-fetched conspiracies, like ones you've expressed, I am more than happy to debunk/address.

For the more harmful stuff and disinformation, sites, including this one, often take action.

22-12-2022 02:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025277#Comment_120025277

Speaking of having decent discussions, I asked you a few questions months ago, repeatedly, to clarify your whole stance on the space programme, as there is some confusion surrounding what you have posted previously. In the interests of 'decent discussion' would you mind replying now?

So here's your opportunity to clear everything up:

You said "the entire space programme was faked". Satellites are part of the space programme. Do you believe satellites are real?
If so, why are they excluded from your claim that "the whole space programme is fake"?
Why have you waited until now (April 2022) to refute the people who said that you believe they aren't real, after being quoted as saying so multiple times?
Do you believe the world is flat?
If so, do you accept that the world is shaped as per the average map (Mercator projection)?
If so, how did Japanese planes bomb Pearl Harbour if they had to fly 36,000 miles in a westerly direction to reach Hawaii and then the survivors fly the same distance back to Japan, partly over mainland USA without detection?

This is basic, entry-level stuff which you have ignored multiple times. How is anybody supposed to engage in decent discussions if you won't even outline what is being discussed.

bad2thebone · 22-12-2022 02:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025345#Comment_120025345

Well some of your fellow debunkers here have said they never seen a conspiracy to be proven as fact.

Obviously you're not on the same page as those guys. And you have an open mind.

Most people don't really have debunking or conspiracies on their minds,so I'm sure they're not going to be reading false information on the conspiracy theorist forum on boards.ie and their opinions are swayed by random guys like you or I .

You sometimes seem to think that whatever you're posting is helping the servitude. As if you or my influence is going to help someone here make the right decision.

I wouldn't want people to take my posting serious. A lot of my posting would be asking questions, deflection of insults and the odd bit of huffing and puffing . I'm not the most nicest guy here. Been pulled up over my bad attitude.ill admit that I'm a bit contrary now and again probably intentionally pissing someone off Par for the course.

I've yet to see a debunker admit they can be a bit of a s#!t now and again.

greenspurs · 22-12-2022 02:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025281#Comment_120025281

So you want to harangue peoples beliefs then?

Do you think you can harangue people into changing their beliefs? Or you just enjoy haranguing people in the CT forum?

Of course some beliefs cross a line, but where do you draw your line?

You seem to take umbrage with ALL theories in here, not just the Anti semitic or harassing the relativies of slain children (???) ...

But whats harmful about Political views?? people are entitled/allowed to favour whatever side they feel like?

People can post their personal views if they like , i dont think you are the decider of what people should think.....

greenspurs · 22-12-2022 02:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025291#Comment_120025291

You posted :

"Pride in being a conspiracy theorist is certainly a moron-dealbreaker.

If posing rhetorical questions is your job? Well then based on the above? Ahhhm, keep up the "good work" I suppose "

really ??

How is pointing out the pile on , "modding" ?

Its pointing out the ott nature of the Followers on here towards anyone that doesnt follow the narrative ...

Cap fits?

banie01 · 22-12-2022 03:04PM

Which is as the OP had asked for in a different thread, that fortuitous synchronicity crossed with his starting this one. Not an insult, an answer to the OP.

It's killing 2 birds with one stone.

Narrative? What narrative? That the conspiracy hypothesists who frequent this corner of boards rarely present evidence? That when they do, they invariably either misrepresent it or misunderstand it?

Or that when a hypothesis is presented, they want to have a right to it's being treated as inviolate?

22-12-2022 03:05PM

Let's all remember, that if it wasn't for the dim-witted and gullible conspiracies wouldn't work..

Curious_Case · 22-12-2022 03:05PM

There's an obvious paradox that can be used as a "get out of asylum free" card by the "thought morphers", so in order to stay a few steps ahead, one needs to remain cognisant of the fact that a convincingly proven theory becomes fact.

Such cases exist - nicotine for instance, asbestos too perhaps, and a host of other substances like DDT as an example.

A "knowing denial" of the health risks incurred by a global product is obviously a conspiracy.

A simple defence to be used here, is the fact that the verb "conspire" has not been intentionally socially stigmatised to the extent that the word "conspiracy" has.

A certain type of individual will attempt to point out a contradiction above, but I'm anticipating them confusing "conspiracy" with "conspiracy theory" in order to do so.

22-12-2022 03:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025484#Comment_120025484

There is documentary evidence of a cover up in fauci's emails..

When you pair it with event 201, and operation crimson contagion, all in the one year, well, you have to be wilfully blind to say there isn't something odd..

greenspurs · 22-12-2022 03:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025475#Comment_120025475

See thats it.

A lot of people feel they have to follow other posters around in the CT forum and belittle their beliefs. What they tthink could be true, would could have happened.

But no. The fact finders demand answer NOW... and if they dont , theyll hold onto the questions they asked months ago (bit strange... 🤔) and they demand answers the next time they feel like demanding a reply.....

"Killing 2 birds with 1 stone" - is that what its about for you?

And has anyone actually ever killed 2 birds with one stone? Or is that another Con Theory ?

banie01 · 22-12-2022 03:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025522#Comment_120025522

You keep fighting that good fight and I'll keep hoping I'm admitted to the group PM conspiracy alert 👍😉

**Edit** just to add, there was no "following" the op. At the time of my reply both his threads were on the front page of boards. As I said earlier, fortuitous synchronicity but don't let coincidence get in the way of a good victim narrative. Which ironically? The OP didn't have.

22-12-2022 03:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025522#Comment_120025522

Yes, people are asked questions about their beliefs. This is SOP across pretty much every single discussion forum on the entire internet.

First of all, not all beliefs are equal and some of them deserve to be belittled.

Secondly, Peoples' beliefs aren't belittled on here. They're not even mocked by anyone. What is mocked, is someone who says "I believe in X" and then refuses to say why they believe in X, or why they believe in Y (which directly contradicts X), or why they cannot explain all of the evidence which proves X cannot be true. This happens repeatedly all across the CT forum.

See my post to Markus from earlier today.......I fail to see how anyone could count that as "belittling" his opinions. I mean, how could I when I'm quite clearly asking him what his beliefs are? Fact of the matter is:

a)he said one thing,

b) was derided for the nonsensical nature of what he said,

c) refused to elaborate when provided an opportunity to do so and

d) claimed, months later, that he never actually said it in the first place.

Anyone is free to believe whatever the fcuk they want to believe. But if you continually ignore everything that disproves those beliefs, lie, misrepresent stuff to show your beliefs in a positive light, contradict yourself, then shut up shop when people point all of this out, then your belief SHOULD be mocked and belittled, as it is nonsensical and not founded in reality.

bad2thebone · 22-12-2022 03:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025504#Comment_120025504

Well sometimes the truth is inconvenient for some people.

A lot of the stuff going on out there ain't going to impinge on my freedom. I've a lot of security in my life. I've a trade in the public sector and pretty well paid and have another 20+ year's in my working life. Mortgage nearly paid off. No outstanding loans otherwise.

All this globalization and WEF conspiracy theory stuff Claus Shwab etc doesn't bother me. Flat earth and JFK pffft

Us so called conspiracy theorists aren't all the same. Take debating about religion and atheism. Well I suppose I'd be an agnostic conspiracy theorist . Some conspiracies are questionable, other's like flat earth and the ice wall I don't have any interest in. They bare no significant impact on my would view. So therefore I couldn't be discussing what I know already isn't true.

@Dohnjoe mentioned bigfoot. I'm still open minded about bipeds and cryptids, the paranormal, different portals etc I find that stuff interesting. So I suppose that comes into the unsolved mysteries bracket more than a conspiracy theory.

farmingquestion · 22-12-2022 03:39PM

I'm not an extreme conspiracy theorist but I do question things we are told. I don't trust politicians to tell us the truth or do the right thing for us.

The person who doesn't believe any conspiracy theory and believes every little thing and doesn't think it's possible for politicians or the rich and powerful to do X or Y are idiots too, as well as those with the 5g covid conspiracy.

It's like when mattie mcgrath was reading from the WEF website in the Dail and he was laughed at and accused of parroting a conspiracy theory...when everything he read out was written on the WEF website.

"Oh it's a crazy conspiracy theory that covid was man made in a lab" - then later it's actually raised as a possibility.

22-12-2022 03:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025606#Comment_120025606

"Well sometimes the truth is inconvenient for some people."

This is now the most true thing you have said on this forum.

Dohnjoe · 22-12-2022 03:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025619#Comment_120025619

Indeed, but remember this is what most conspiracy theorists say, whether it's Alex Jones, a flat-earther, someone who believes people are lizards, they say they are "just questioning things"

But many don't like when their conspiracies are questioned. Some go to great lengths to avoid that happening.

greenspurs · 22-12-2022 03:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025605#Comment_120025605

See , there you go again ....... You say

"First of all, not all beliefs are equal and some of them deserve to be belittled."

Then :

" Peoples' beliefs aren't belittled on here. They're not even mocked by anyone. What is mocked, is someone who says "I believe in X" and then refuses to say why they believe in X"

The contradictions - Some deserve to be belittled , then peoples beliefs arent belittled, Theyre not even mocked - then What is mocked is someone ...

Its so hard to keep up with your definition of what has to happen in here.

Its not always words that belittle people, its the way you phrase them.

Maybe you and a few others should think about that.

Once again - Why are there so many people that dont believe in any Theorys, in here ?

silliussoddius · 22-12-2022 03:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025619#Comment_120025619

What WEF stuff?

bad2thebone · 22-12-2022 03:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025638#Comment_120025638

Glad you agree with me $hifty. It's about time you stopped asking silly questions and agree with me.

I dug a hole and you walked into it.

Take your pick, or as I say, call a spade a spade.

bad2thebone · 22-12-2022 03:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025646#Comment_120025646

They just like arguing on the internet.

22-12-2022 04:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025646#Comment_120025646

Reading comprehension not your strong point, eh?

Let me break it down for you then.....

The contradictions - Some deserve to be belittled , then peoples beliefs arent belittled,

"Some beliefs deserve to be belittled, but they aren't." Two completely different things which can exist independently of one another.....i.e. not a contradiction.

Theyre not even mocked - then What is mocked is someone ...

Correct. Their beliefs aren't mocked. Their refusal to accept that their belief is complete horseh1t when evidence showing them that it's horseh1t IS mocked.

Again, two completely different things which can exist independently of one another.....i.e. not a contradiction.

Its so hard to keep up with your definition of what has to happen in here.

I've never said anything HAS to happen here or anywhere. What SHOULD happen, if people want healthy, robust discussion, is for everyone to engage in the topic in good faith. Ignoring evidence, refusing to engage with whatever pokes holes in your argument, outright lying and refusing to even say what you believe in, is not acting in good faith.

I fully reserve the right to mock and belittle anyone who does the above. For the sake of clarity, I'm not mocking their BELIEFS, I'm mocking their dishonest METHODS of defending or promoting those beliefs. There is a difference between the two, a huge difference.

Capisce?

farmingquestion · 22-12-2022 04:13PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025667#Comment_120025667

Stuff Mattie McGrath was reading in the dail about the 4th industrial revolution and changing to stakeholder capitalism.

greenspurs · 22-12-2022 04:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025605#Comment_120025605

🤣🤣

You have to get a wee insult in every post ?? Its nice to be nice ?

I did a synopsis of what you wrote, but after your diatribe ...THIS IS WHAT YOU WROTE...

So can you break that down, not what i paraphrased in my last post... Maybe explain where im wrong about you contradicting yourself? maybe i didnt break it down enough for you?

THIS IS WHAT YOU WROTE

"First of all, not all beliefs are equal and some of them deserve to be belittled.

Secondly, Peoples' beliefs aren't belittled on here. They're not even mocked by anyone.

What is mocked, is someone who says "I believe in X" and then refuses to say why they believe in X, or why they believe in Y (which directly contradicts X), or why they cannot explain all of the evidence which proves X cannot be true. This happens repeatedly all across the CT forum." *end of quote

1)"Some of them deserve to be belittled" ?

2) " peoples beliefs arent belittled on here" ...

3) "what is mocked is someone" .......

Help me capisce........

bad2thebone · 22-12-2022 04:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025752#Comment_120025752

So what you're suggesting is mock the poster and not the post. Goes against posting in good faith doesn't it.

22-12-2022 04:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025787#Comment_120025787

Nope. Please try again......closer to: "Mock the poster's abject failure at defending/explaining/outlining their beliefs".

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025786#Comment_120025786

Maybe explain where im wrong about you contradicting yourself?

I already did. The fact that you misunderstood it (twice) is on your head, not mine. Here it is for a third time:

"Some beliefs deserve to be belittled, but they aren't." Two completely different things which can exist independently of one another.....i.e. not a contradiction.
Their beliefs aren't mocked. Their refusal to accept that their belief is complete horseh1t when evidence showing them that it's horseh1t IS mocked.

gameoverdude · 22-12-2022 04:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025223#Comment_120025223

Poor auld galileo. Mad stuff he came up with.

I agree proof is required and not mad nonsense, but people should be allowed bring their thoughts out and open to honest discourse. Only see one side not being open and honest.

22-12-2022 04:35PM

Once again - Why are there so many people that dont believe in any Theorys, in here ?

Forgot to address this point........for the exact same reason that people who believe completely ridiculous and stupid theories are in here. Because they can, and anyone wishing for an echo chamber can go start their own forum if they so wish. This isn't a 'safe space' where you can spout whatever crap you want. We've seen all too recently how leaving this stuff unchallenged can lead to severe (and possibly fatal) consequences.

If you don't want to be taken to task for talking sh1te, then the answer is to stop talking sh1te, not banning everyone who says "he's talking sh1te".

silliussoddius · 22-12-2022 04:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120025756#Comment_120025756

And?

I am Proud of Being a Conspiracy Theorist

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So here's your opportunity to clear everything up: