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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    By springtime Putin will know what we all know today. He is lost and done for. Anyway we have Lucky Lunka from Belarus being wheeled out to demand talks we can be sure Putin is under the Kosh. I see no reason at all for Ukraine or Zelensky to feel under pressure to talk to Russia until Putin pulls out all his henchmen [they can't be called an army anymore] from all of Ukraine.

    At that, Zelenskyy needs to make sure the armed forces of Ukraine have a missile system in place to guarantee Russia will never again go anywhere near it. 100 cruise missiles are all Ukraine needs to keep the Russian crazies away from her.

    Dan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,364 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Why the pogram in Russia atm against gay people?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,441 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I was talking to an ex-Irish army guy this week, quite high up in his time, and he says the standard of officers in the Russian army seems terrible. He was one of those who bought into the idea in February that they might be a professional fighting force, but the poor calibre of the army is astonishing to him - it was all smoke and mirrors.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,091 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    What do mean 'at the moment?', it's been fairly normal forever.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,465 ✭✭✭zv2




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    Thats the impression most professional soldiers i know have as well.

    Its all propaganda,corruption and deception

    Nothing have changed since Stalin,and Russias modernization of its military is decades behind the west.

    And it will take Russia years to even get close to anything west have if they started tomorrow.

    With a GDP the size of Italy you cant expect much from Russia anyway,and not now with Russias economy going back to the 90s again.

    Nuclear blackmail seems like the only option Russia have left



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    It would depend how they did it. Obviously if they just thunder ran their units down to the coast tomorrow they'd be placing themselves in between the jaws of two fronts, which would be a very bad idea. But they don't need to do this all in one go.

    If you look at the map of the trainlines across the southern held Russian landbridge in Ukraine the key point is Tokmak, only half way to the coast. Along with the land bridge from north Crimea you only have two train lines capable of transporting heavy equipment and reinforcements to the russian troops on the west of dnipro : Takmok and Crimea landbridge. Both of which are currently within HIMARS range since Kherson was retaken. And since the Kersch bridge is currently still damaged it's dubious how much Crimea can even still supply to the southern front.

    So the Ukrainians stick to their modus operandi. Hammer these supply lines for the Russians on the western bank then prod at them with artillery and methodical ground assaults until it simply becomes untenable to hold the ground. The logistically exhausted Russians to the east of Tokmak retreat to northern Crimea(currently being fortified by the Russians since they forsee this outcome themselves IMO).

    The second that happens Crimea is done. Once standard HIMARS rockets can reach all Crimea, Ukraine can just pull the same stunt again. Hit supplys/command/rescource storage, rinse, repeat. If Crimea falls then Putin goes with it. There's no way he survives political backlash from that.

    I could be way off the mark and there's many variables that could turn this possible reality into a dream. But honestly I can't help but feel that forcing the russians to tactically reposition themselves out of Crimea is easier than forcing the Russians out of Donbas and eastern Ukraine where they can be supplied more easily from the mainland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,026 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Putin has to have an "enemy", be that in the physical, psychological or cultural sense. There has to be something to "protect" Russians from. If there is none available, one has to be manufactured.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭grumpyperson


    Another one of Putin's puppies.

    https://gordonhahn.com/2022/11/22/the-russian-winter-offensive/

    Author – Gordon M. Hahn, Ph.D., is a Senior Researcher at the Center for Terrorism and Intelligence Studies (CETIS), Akribis Group, San Jose, California


    He tells a different story than the rte version. Any thoughts?



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,324 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    The main difference I see is Russia has adapted and I suspect the new general muppet is the one doing the adapting. They've realised(finally) that taking the country is impossible for them beyond gobshítes on their equivalent of Fox news and IMHO they're consolidating what they have taken. That's a much easier task for them. Consider their airforce. In the first days into weeks we were seeing lots of pics and video of destroyed Russian jets. That tapered off quickly. They know the airspace is too risky over Ukrainian held territory. Today what flights are going on are high medium altitude sorties along the coast out of effective range of Ukrainian air defence, but within Russian range of air to ground attacks. Not very far in but enough. Others are air launching cruise missiles that are hitting as far as Kyiv.

    Why waste assets on such targets when they could be fired at military targets closer to the front? It's "cheaper" to attack infrastructure and people and they hope it'll force the Ukrainians(& NATO) to talks sooner. It also hurts supply lines for the military of course. The Ukrainian people under barrage will resist as people always have. but logistics can cause strategic problems. Kherson was a dead loss so they legged it again knowing they couldn't hold it and went across the big river which is a much more defensible barrier. That looks planned and over weeks(and since General Potatoheadski got in), Kharkiv was a rout and wasn't planned(there are a lot fewer pics of Russian kit being found in Kherson compared to Kharkiv). Their motley gang of pressganged conscripts would be useless against Ukrainian regulars, but as bulletstoppers manning defensive lines they're a big headache and time sink.

    Oh sure, if they can keep up the hammering long enough. But even if they flatten the place with HIMARS you still have to physically go in and take the land back and look how long the fighting in Bakhmut is going on. Because the Russians are hellbent on taking it. Look how long it took the concentrated effort of the Russians to take Mariupol. Months and the reduced it to rubble. Ukraine would in essence be doing that in reverse. Now the Russians could do another run away run away! Kharkiv style and leave it open but IMHO that's pretty much what would have to happen.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Hence the oh look we suffered more than anyone else during WW2 , Nato has surrounded us and are planning to invade and force us all to enjoy democracy, freedom,and capitalism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,465 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,444 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    When you can't blame 'immigants' (because no one wants to go there) you need to target minority groups to deflect blame for bad decisions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,026 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yes, that was obvious once he got started, especially when you consider how many previous (and now extinct) holders of that post there were. He continued doing what he had been infamously doing in Syria, IE; bombing from a distance. Total destruction, primarily hospitals and infrastructure. And it worked too, Deraa was in a bad way when he arrived, it had taken the brunt of the war, but what was still standing, he finished by leveling it. And that's his MO. Make the place uninhabitable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    I believe the russian officer class is kind of like the Klingons you kill your superior keep the role no matter how inept you are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,465 ✭✭✭zv2


    What can also happen is that Russia will run out of war machines. Recently they were losing 100 tanks per week. How long can they endure this level of attrition? That depends on how much stuff the west supplies. Everything depends on western supplies.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,026 ✭✭✭jmreire


    I had a bit of a closer look at the handle, and what I thought was the manufacturers logo turns out to be blood stains, perfectly imprinted on the wood. So finger prints for sure, and would it be possible to get a DNA sample and use it to positively identity the user /owner? And send him an appropriate "Thank You" note??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,465 ✭✭✭zv2


    Yes. And if that's real blood, the victim too.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,364 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    I'm leaning to it's a lack of confidence in oneself in the world and where the world views you back. So to regain some confidence they pick the fools confidence of becoming a bully. And bully those they know they can take a fools victory from.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,324 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Or it's a popular move among his subjects to show he's still with them. The last anti Gay stuff was. Think Ireland circa 1950. In public speeches he rails against the "decadence" of the west and "men who think they're women" and that's singing to the choir.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,324 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I'd be very surprised if it's blood. More likely paint IMHO. Blood rapidly oxidises and goes way darker than that in a matter of days. Not that Ferrari red. It also gets very crumbly and fragile. Real blood wouldn't last long on wood that's been polished. I've said too much... 😮😁

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    The European Parliament: Aleksandr Lukashenka must face the tribunal. The EP condemned the human rights violations in the country and Russia's usage of Belarus for military purposes


    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,026 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yes, but the fingerprints are fairly visible too. Be great to get a "Handle" on the bastard, (excuse the pun)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,135 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Unfortunately we are seeing signs of this slowly but surely chipping away at Ukraines whole ability to try function from day to day in even the basics.

    Going to be a long winter unless NATO grows some balls.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I believe it's supposed to red paint, but knowing that bunch of scumbags it's likely some poor sods blood .

    You would think a force like them who got anilated in Syria when they tried to take on the US and Kurdish forces,and have lost thousands of men trying to take bakhmut unsuccessfully on a near daily basis , shouldn't be so cocky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭seenitall


    They sent that sledgehammer to the EU parliament? I wonder what Claire’s and Mick’s first thoughts on seeing that were?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,441 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    This definitely appears to be the Russki plan (it also makes a total mockery of their war on Ukrainian civilians being described by them as a "special military operation").



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,324 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Thoughts Seenitall? Ah here, you're asking a lot from that pair. 😁

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭seenitall


    Well, lord knows they’re yappy enough 🙄so I guess I was wondering if there is anything at all, such as a naked sledgehammer threat from the orcs, that would at least give them pause for thought, if not the actual thing itself 😄



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