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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭ ariana`

    It's a tough call, I guess what I really want is something on paper but without the accountability aspect. I did have a coach for a bit, but I called it a day when it hit a point where the accountability factor was a negative or an additional stressor in my life (through absolutely no fault of the coach in question I must say, totally on me and my personality). And I've proven I can run consistently without that accountability factor, maybe slightly lower mileage perhaps, but still consistently steady.

    I'll read up on Lydiard. And I think you're right about racing and that is what I'll have to do. It will be last minute entries, if any, for a while I think...

    Thanks P. There should be an annual award for the person most likely to reply - you'd be a shoe in ☺️

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,580 ✭✭✭ Swashbuckler

    I was actually going to start off my post with "I bet you knew who was gonna be the first to answer". haha.

    Listen to some other opinions too. Sometimes launching in with strong opinions can put other people off posting their own so hopefully some others chime in and I havent put them off.

    I purchased a McMillian Plan this year that is Lydiard based and is the guts of 6 months if I recall.

    Also, I get what you mean in terms or accountability..I was the same...Put too much pressure on myself on that front which heightened the overall pressure with work and family added to the mix.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭ Annie get your Run

    The EIM approach might suit you? It looks (from the outside anyway!) like something that would keep you in decent shape all the time with the constant (but apparently easy 😄) faster stuff throughout. I'm sure E & S would give you tons of info!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭ Dubh Geannain

    What is the book that you do have?

    I'm very much in a similar situation with races being mostly an inconvenience. And while I might enter things, it could be the day before when I decide to actually run it. I did manage to actually run two target races this year (the most successful one was off the back of around 6 weeks focus) but am always willing to accept any child related cancellations; such is life.

    Congrats on the PB too by the way. Imagine what you'd do off a focussed block! 😂

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭ ariana`

    Thank you! The book I have is the Easy Interval Method by Klaas Lok. It might suit you.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭ Kellygirl

    I’m delighted you did that race and got yourself a nice PB too. Big congrats on that again. It would be nice to do a few of those sort of races and just turn up when suits. They are usually a bit cheaper than some of the bigger ones too.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,138 ✭✭✭ AuldManKing

    Thats a great race well ran - congrats on the PB and dont knock it - its a PB!!

    (you might want to edit your time in your report though - 37.39 nearly had me with my calculator out)

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,580 ✭✭✭ Swashbuckler

    Awesome stuff E. Like AMK you had me wondering.....

    You might be like me, more suited to low pressure, adhoc racing, often not with a specific block. I've always preferred that. I can only think of a few races I did a specific block for that I was delighted with. Well done you. That's a big chunk off a 10k time, thanks in no small part to you building your aerobic base massively.

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,690 ✭✭✭ skyblue46

    I agree with what all the others have said above. I'm in awe of the effort you put in all the same. I have got myself to a very good place fitness wise but I still won't go all in like you did. Fair play!

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,382 ✭✭✭ Mr. Guappa

    Congrats on the PB - they don't happen by accident! Plenty of work and sacrifice goes into achieving one - both on the day and in the preceding weeks/months/years. This one was well deserved and great to see.

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,580 ✭✭✭ Swashbuckler

    Great post.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,310 ✭✭✭ Bluesquare

    I’d watch those hungover runs - I seem to pick up niggles lol . I find when I run fast with a hangover I’m much more relaxed . We did 5k time trials during the first covid lockdown - I won’t lie I was hungover for all of them but have no idea where I pulled those times from. Maybe it’s the way forward

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,310 ✭✭✭ Bluesquare

    I see Pfitzinger has a full chapter on training for multiple distances in his faster road racing book which includes schedules . His mileage is a bit rich for me but you could probably use it as a base . I’m using his half schedule ( but with a bit of mileage shaved off).

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,310 ✭✭✭ Bluesquare

    Well done on pb - sorry for all the posts I didn’t see the last page somehow so posted on last weeks stuff .

    Great running without training with a focus and nice report !

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,158 ✭✭✭ ariana`

    A 2 week update to close out the year

    Week of Dec 19th

    I didn't run til Wednesday and I can't remember why - busy tying up ends in work, kids school play & last minute shopping/Christmas prep most likely

    Wednesday: Easy run of 6.5miles

    Thurs: 2 * 10mins threshold based on HR, paces were 7:31 & 7:28, a lot faster than Tinman gives me for Threshold (7:50-8:00) but I'm going to stick with HR for a little while anyways and assess as I go. LT test couldn't be any more recent really so I'm going to trust it.

    Saturday: An easy run of 7m

    Sunday: Christmas day and no run again.

    A very light week of 20 miles

    Week of Dec 26th

    Tuesday: 7m easy

    Thursday: 10k/6.25m easy

    Friday: A short session of 5 * 2' on/1' off, around 5k effort.

    Saturday: another easy run

    Another light week of 23 miles.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭ Kellygirl

    3 excellent PBs too. The year ahead should be interesting too with training with the new paces etc.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,310 ✭✭✭ Bluesquare

    Happy New year ! You had a great year - 3 fab pbs despite the decrease in mileage and all the other obstacles life threw in the way ! Well done and I look forward to reading your log in 2023 !

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,201 ✭✭✭ coogy

    Plenty to be proud of there E! Great to see how so many folks like yourself are constantly striving to keep going one better, it's inspiring!!!

    Best of luck for 2023!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭ OOnegative

    The very best of luck with the goals E, knowing you & having followed your running progress, those targets are more than attainable.